interesting analysis of Dean

[sgmajorshipper]

Basically, it breaks down, in an interesting way, why Dean behaves the way he does to Sam, and, because that's kinda the point of the post, Cas. It's about homophobia in SPN, and why Dean/Cas will never be explorable because of the way the characters are, but, it includes some pretty spot-on stuff about Dean's character in the midst of that, and

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[sgmajorshipper]

I started BSG, and as much as I adore the idea and their execution, I just can't get into it and stay with it right now, for some reason.
Breaking Bad intrigued me for that very reason; the whole show is essentially this theme, about how a typical, good guy goes to the villain of his own story.

Ooo Carnivale. I've been wanting to watch that for ages, because the story sounds amazing, but I'm scared of how mad I'll be when I get to the end and have no final resolution. XD

Oh, history! \o/ That sounds like a very interesting book, and, I have to be honest, I haven't read a lot about France during that period, so that makes it doubly interesting. But yeah, I'd say his life sounds like it was the essence of what I think is fascinating. Getting trapped in that cycle-down of righteousness and being stuck trying too hard to do the right thing.

[sgmajorshipper]

I shall have to make note of that! I'm always on the prowl for smart, potential-packed shows.

Oh, gosh, Rome. It would be pretty awesome to see a historical drama made out of the French Revolution, because it would be awesome.

[sgmajorshipper]

I feel, unfortunately, like I can't pick out the subtleties of homophobia, because I've been called homophobic before, and I come from a background where generalized homophobia is pretty acceptable, so I'm still trying to figure out where things cross the line. I do think that it feels homophobic sometimes, but, idk, I always considered that an aspect of Dean's character, rather than a feature of the show, because the jokes and shit come from him, nine times out of ten.

But, yeah, I do see it. I just don't feel confident to tell everyone what degree of homophobia it might be.

[sgmajorshipper]

It seems to me more like uncomfortableness, like they don't want to be all the way homophobic, but because it is something that comes up in show, they don't know how to deal with it, so they try to just relegate it to jokes and move on. That's kinda my interpretation.

[lunasky3]

Really interesting analysis. I agree with a bunch of bits, but would it even be taking it to far to say that the act of putting Dean in this feminized roll, either by John, the writers, or this author (because I'm not sure to what extent I agree with it) is homophobic? Because its based off the idea of a "nuclear" family and diminishes Johns role as a single father and puts a lot of the blame on him. Yeah, he wasn't father of the year, but I'm always hesitant to jump on the John hate wagon.

next gennnnnn \o/

[sgmajorshipper]

I think the way the author linked the way Dean grew up to homophobia was exactly efficient or well-worked. I do think that because of the way he was raised, he didn't have the chance to develop proper relationships outside of John and Sam, neither of which is perfectly normal, so he doesn't form proper bonds. I mean, we know he can be pretty sexist because of the way he can't deal with female relationships, so it makes sense that he would be at the very least uncomfortable about homosexuality because he can't deal with male relationships outside of family, either. But to me, what I see of it is just the way relationships work. It doesn't seem like a huge jump in the end, 'cause they all kinda domino effectively.

I don't think what John did was intentional on his part. I think all of their reactions were typical of someone put in that situation. I mean, yeah, John was the parent, but, by nature of the fact that he was often away, out, working, it only enforced the roles they'd fallen into. And it's a fact that when a parent dies, the