Snape and Gryffindor

[rattlesnakeroot]

This is how I feel whenever I think about whether Snape should have been in Gryffindor: It makes me want to scream. I think Dumbledore implied that only Gryffindors have courage, which is ridiculous. Or perhaps this artist is saying something about the fact that if Snape had been in Gryffindor he wouldn't have followed his friends into the Death

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[whiteroseofdark]

For me it is like the picture shows that Lily and Severus have been seperated through the Houses and that everything would not have happend if they were together in the same house.
or that he choose the wrong side - the deather eaters and not Lily. :(

[rattlesnakeroot]

I think it's both ~ he realized the big mistake he made with Lily, but also he couldn't change the fact that he wasn't in Gryffindor. Both things would make him feel hopeless.

[wobblerlorri]

I think it's more a statement of how the Dark Mark has cut not only a permanent scar into his arm, but has permanently alienated him from the Gryffindor he most cared about. He knows that a man bearing the Dark Mark could never be looked on with love by a woman of Gryffindor... especially one particular woman.

But he did it anyway.

Personally I think Severus was well suited for Slytherin, and never regretted being a Slytherin. It was Dumbledore who had the (mistaken) idea that only Gryffindors could be courageous. Severus I think knew that courage isn't confined to one house...

[rattlesnakeroot]

I think it's horrible that Lily judged Snape for being a Slytherin, and then it seemed as if Dumbledore was still judging him 20 years later. I think the look on his face when Dumbledore said that was partly due to his wondering "Will anyone ever accept for what I am?"

[wobblerlorri]

Personally I have no use for Lily. She was never able to accept Sev for who he was; I think if she had been, they'd have stayed together. Hell, she had friends in Gryffindor, why was it such a huge hairy deal that he had friends in Slytherin?

And I think the Marauders did much worse things than anything we know of the Slytherins doing...

[stavriella]

Well I think of that in this way;the main characteristics of students sorted in Gryffindor are courage and chivalry,whereas students who are sorted in Slytherin are cunning and ambitious.So I don't think that Dumbledore implied that only Gryffindors have courage;just that courage is their main characteristic.No,it doesn't mean for me that Slytherins can't be courageous,or Gryffindors can't be cunning and ambitious,just those aren't their "special features".So he thought that Snape's courage was the most important thing about his character,so Gryffindor would be a better house for him.On a second thought,had Snape been sorted to Gryffindor,well I can't be sure that we would know Harry Potter

[guerabella]

I did notice that Gryffindor scarf behind him when I first saw the movie in the scene just before he dies. :'( I think it's a tribute to his bravery and loyalty and maybe represents Lily's importance. I like to think she was there on the other side waiting for him when he got there.

[rattlesnakeroot]

Yes, the scarf is in the boathouse. :) Some people think it is symbolic of both Lily and Harry.

[wobblerlorri]

You know, chivalry isn't something I'd really want to be known for. Sure, it looks great on the outside, but think about it: chivalry was something knights errant did for people of the upper class -- it wasn't something they did for peasants and serfs as well.

In other words, chivalry is snobbish altruism. I'd much rather be altruistic regardless of the class or position of the person in need.

[ms_arithmancer]

Regarding the posted artwork - in it, Snape is dressed as a schoolboy. This would be before any realization that the Death Eaters are "the wring side", is seems to me. So my personal interpretation of it, is that it shows Snape casting aside a Gryffindor tie (symbolizing Lily, who has rejected him) in favor of the Dark Mark.

[rattlesnakeroot]

He also seems to be in pain, so I think he would have realized quickly that being a DE wasn't going to be a bed of roses, but a trap.

[princessofsnark]

At first glance it looks as though Severus is in pain, both physical and emotional. He's been marked with the Dark Mark, whcih I'm sure is pretty uncomfortable -- it looks that way here. He's also grasping a Gryffindor tie, as though, to me, he's wishing he could have held on to Lily that easily. But, she was a living person, and he let her make her choices and he made his -- both of which put him in great distress. He had to know once he received that Mark there was no turning back with Lily, so he'd obviously given up there. And, it doesn't seem he's really looking forward to the future, just kind of accepting that he has no other choice, nowhere else to turn. It's a difficult picture to look at because he seems so upset.

[rattlesnakeroot]

Yes, he's still bleeding from the Dark Mark. *eek*

I think Voldemort must have promised these people the stars and moon in order to get them to take the mark. Like any predator, he sought out young impressionable people - those who needed friends the most, like Severus. And then, ZAP, they were trapped with this tattoo that reminds me of a radio collar on a wild animal. Then a whole new world of horror opened up as a member of this vicious group where anyone would throw another DE under the bus just to watch them get punished.