i still think you're amazing, you know

Nov 03, 2010 21:19

I'm trying not to confuse the issue or take away from FA's actions, which were by any standard completely wrong, but I'm really hitting hard against how we're devaluing ourselves (and you know, other people) in response.

FA fucked up. They were asking for money for their servers and vague 'educational' somethings untyped. They weren't applying ( Read more... )

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schmevil November 4 2010, 04:47:18 UTC
This is a great (and ho-shit incendiary!) post. Thank you.

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seperis November 4 2010, 05:30:47 UTC
Thank you!

I have kept 'rare condition of delayed post-anesthesia crazyness' on the table. I mean, it will be if google will show me it exists. Which they aren't, so yeah, this is their fault.

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morgandawn November 4 2010, 05:43:35 UTC
I was just working on this section on Fanlore this weekend:
http://fanlore.org/wiki/Slash#Slash_and_the_Arrival_of_the_Internet

To quote Alex, writing in 1995: ""My opinion is that the more open we are about slash and our interest in it, the more others will get used to the idea, and the more we openly support each other, the more people will see that we're not the Devil's Spawn, we're mostly just the Middle-Aged Women Next Door, women who will buy Girl Scout cookies from their children, not lure them into a den of iniquity. The more we hide, the more we look as if we *have* something to hide."

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seperis November 4 2010, 06:12:40 UTC
What I get out of it is people I can share things with, who will understand, who won't sneer at me for my hobbies, who will have meaningful conversations with me about how Dean and Sam would have turned out had Mary been the one who lived, who will have completely silly conversations with me about whether BeCum is a suitable short-hand version of Benedict Cumberbatch, and maybe we're all nuts and we all know how to bring out the craycrayCRAY, but for a few hours a day we can be happy doing things we like with other people also doing things they like that happen to be the same thing or at least close enough that the difference doesn't matter.

I'm not even being flip when I say you are living the dream. This is like, exactly it and this, this is wonderful and amazing.

Like, this is not even macroable, but I'd totally have this as a macro with "Fandom: doing it right" for this.

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ohbritannia November 4 2010, 06:18:06 UTC
You.

You.

YOU.

Thank you, thank you. One from the girl who was so desperately ashamed of this secret hobby that most everyone despises like some kind of actual criminal perversion that she was inching towards those detractors inside of the community, thinking that by 'acknowledging the stupidity' of fic writing she would somehow escape judgment and rise above it all. And the second thank you from the girl who will never give up fandom and fiction because of people like you, who knew it was beautiful and incredible and lovely and necessary all along, and just needed this reminder. I'm too tired/stressed/inarticulate to explain what, exactly, this means to me that you have written this, but it means a whole fucking lot.

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seperis November 4 2010, 06:46:28 UTC
...okay, this is ridiculous, I'm getting so emotional over this and fine, I won't take the post-surgery psychosis defense because this is the answer to pretty much any question on why I really, really needed to write this.

I have no excuse for getting teary-eyed here other than your eloquence. Thank you for commenting; I don't think I really got how much I needed to hear this, what we are and what we do, is supposed to be like this; it's wonderful and it's us and all of this.

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realpestilence November 4 2010, 06:30:16 UTC
This is wonderful food for thought, though I'm not familiar with whatever happened to spur the comment. FA?

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