i still think you're amazing, you know

[seperis]

I'm trying not to confuse the issue or take away from FA's actions, which were by any standard completely wrong, but I'm really hitting hard against how we're devaluing ourselves (and you know, other people) in response.

FA fucked up. They were asking for money for their servers and vague 'educational' somethings untyped. They weren't applying

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[seperis]

This, yes. I mean, torturing yourself is bad enough; really no need to spread that kind of joy.

Spread fanfic and have a ship war!

[trinity_clare]

MOTHERFUCKING COSIGNED.

(Interestingly, the "business sense" point and the "starving children" point dovetail weirdly in university students, especially at hippie liberal arts colleges like the one I went to -- making money for its own sake was hugely frowned upon, and if you didn't belong to the "I picked a major I liked, and someday I will live in a cardboard box" Facebook group, you had better be planning to use your business/econ/management degree to start orphanages or homeless shelters or something. Otherwise you were going straight to hell.)

[seperis]

There is nothing as unsettling or surreal as capitalism with religion (hello doctrine of prosperity, wtf?) or philosophy. It just never ends well.

And thank you!

[digitalwave]

Beautiful, Jen, simply beautiful!

I for one am very, very glad we have this community, sweetie. I'm thankful every single day to have you guys in my life. And, I'm really happy to have had the chance for us to be friends these last few years. Fandom, and being active in it, has given me all of that. :)

[seperis]

Yes, this. This.

*hugs you* I return the sentiment, with interest.

[digitalwave]

And I'm always happy to return the hugs. Being mindful of sore tummys of course. There can never be too many hugs in someone's life. :)

*hugs back gently*

[reddwarfer]

Your post is wonderful. Though, I do understand that being out in my culture and a fellow fan being out in theirs is different.

Everyone knows I write fanfic. Most know I write porn. My kid knows I write porn. I have no shame in it and I think it's a worthwhile way to spend time. It makes me happy. To read. To write. To be with my friends who I've met.

For some people, it can be dangerous...depending on where they live. I get that, too.

Then there's shame. It's hard to dictate when and where people exhibit it as people learn shame at their parent's knees.

I do think we, as a group, should be more proud of our accomplishments and our enjoyment and realize that happiness or pleasure is just as important as being "legit" but I don't know that you can explain to someone to stop feeling a certain way about it.

♥ to you for this post.

[seperis]

Yeah, being public about it is definitely both a personal and complicated issue.

I do think we, as a group, should be more proud of our accomplishments and our enjoyment and realize that happiness or pleasure is just as important as being "legit" but I don't know that you can explain to someone to stop feeling a certain way about it.

Yes, this this this so much.

Thank you!

[silveraspen]

I'm so glad you're here; we would have been infinitely less without you. I'm so glad I met you.

I just wish you could say the same.

This. So much this.

And I'm glad I met you too, here in this delightfully wacky Internet World.

[seperis]

*glee* Thank you.

..seriously? We have to find a way to share pie over the internet. I feel this could like, change fannish discourse forever, or at very least, really improve our multitasking skills.

[silveraspen]

Oh absolutely! There should always be pie.