i still think you're amazing, you know

Nov 03, 2010 21:19

I'm trying not to confuse the issue or take away from FA's actions, which were by any standard completely wrong, but I'm really hitting hard against how we're devaluing ourselves (and you know, other people) in response.

FA fucked up. They were asking for money for their servers and vague 'educational' somethings untyped. They weren't applying ( Read more... )

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"Can I hear an amen?" droolfangrrl November 4 2010, 02:39:21 UTC
Re: "Can I hear an amen?" seperis November 4 2010, 02:47:22 UTC
...why didn't I think of that and not tl;dr'ed? FIVE WORDS. Gah.

*sulks quietly*

That pic is awesome.

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Re: "Can I hear an amen?" droolfangrrl November 4 2010, 02:52:57 UTC
Oh you! I did too read it! :P

What you said was from the heart and well thought out. I just was flailing around for something to say and came up with two cliche'd catch phrases, one to indicate that I agreed with you a lot, the other what it seemed that you were saying boiled down to it's simplest form. So I pretty much said, "I really agree with this, the core point of what you said."

*ruffles you up a bit for being silly.*

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Re: "Can I hear an amen?" seperis November 4 2010, 03:00:56 UTC
But that is like, succinct and has macros.

*Sends hugs* You're terribly awesome. I would totally you a beer at fangirl karaoke night.

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the_moonmoth November 4 2010, 02:43:14 UTC
Being ashamed because mainstream values say we are freaks and our work has no value while acknowledging mainstream values are fucked up and working to overcome the internalization is one thing; externalizing that to the point where it's knee-jerk to agree every time someone calls a fanfic writer/artist/vidder/meta writer a [see the paragraph way up there for a complete list; I can't do it again], to actually believe that, isn't ironic realism or showing how really, you are really aware and smart. You are totally nothing like those fangirls who are about porn and stalking (and seriously, I'm so tired of the weight thing it's unreal); you know you suck, and though you're still doing it and everything, it's way superior to those losers who like, don't get how loser they are. You acknowledge you do worthless things and that makes it okay.

This. Excellent post.

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seperis November 4 2010, 02:48:57 UTC
Thank you very much. *stares at it* Believe it or not, when I started, this was just going to be a couple of paragraphs and some links. I have no idea what happened there.

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traveller November 4 2010, 02:51:53 UTC
this post is amazing.

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seperis November 4 2010, 03:03:25 UTC
...so I may not need the surgery defense? This is a good thing; google did not have a lot of results for 'sudden psychosis of the tl;dr variety due to anesthesia a week after the fact'. Which means google fails, obviously.

Did I tell you I find you amazing recently? As it is true.

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traveller November 4 2010, 03:08:32 UTC
I'm sure some self-important jackwagon will come along and call you a wanker, but that doesn't mean that this whole thing isn't a hundred percent true. and it articulates some shit that I've been personally having trouble nailing down, so double thank you.

I... have no idea what I did to deserve said accolade, but I thank you. :)

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seperis November 4 2010, 03:10:35 UTC
*g* Many things, but I always forget to comment. Most of your entries in LJ actually. I need to remember to comment more.

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sanj November 4 2010, 02:59:11 UTC
I care, though, what we think of ourselves; this shit is what we're perfectly willing to trot out at a moment's notice like it's goddamn gospel written on the mountain. My last post was too mixed up with the FA thing to hit this as hard as I wanted to, but as a member of this community this is fucking relevant to my life and interests and I'm entitled to ask this question; is this what you think about when you're reading your flist, posting fic, art, vids, meta, media commentary, feedbacking, beta'ing, building websites and going to cons?

Yes, this. Exactly. Thank you.

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seperis November 4 2010, 03:12:57 UTC
I think my ability to feel shame is forever numbed; when I woke from surgery still clutching stuffed animals and was like "oh, that's sweet, they gaev them back to me right when they finished the gluing!" then yeah. Shame, whatever. Stuffed animals, fuck yeah.

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innocentsmith November 4 2010, 03:07:28 UTC
Amen, hallelujah.

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seperis November 4 2010, 03:15:19 UTC
*bounces* Thank you.

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