Here we go again

Dec 14, 2012 14:37

Another lunatic brings a gun into a gun-free (sic) zone and kills a bunch of unarmed people, and instantly come the screams of rage against the people who had nothing to do with it.

I say this with all due respect: go fuck yourselves.

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ninetinytrees December 14 2012, 23:23:22 UTC
This. And you know they'll come out saying the shooter had some sort of mental defect or illness, so naturally EVERYONE ever who currently or previously had one will be demonized, too.

I wish humanity at large would realize that individuals make individual choices and that the guy who chose to kill those people represents no one but himself.

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scarybaldguy December 15 2012, 01:41:30 UTC
Apparently he was on the autism spectrum and/or OCD. Diagnosed mental illness is already a disqualifier for gun ownership, so there's that.

When shit like this happens (which, in a country of 300,000,000 people, is statistically a non-event) and people look sideways at me for being a gun owner, it's very hard not to throw racial analogies back at them: Black man commits a crime, gotta bust all the black men, even those on the other side of the godsdamn country who had nothing to do with it. Humanity's tendency to divide the 'verse into Us and Them will be the literal death of us.

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ninetinytrees December 15 2012, 01:52:28 UTC
Hm. I still wish people wouldn't call autism a mental illness, but they do, and they will, and this sure isn't going to help our position on matters. I do get tired of all the labeling, and I also get tired of the "OMG, we need to freak out because a lot of white children were killed!". A lot of people of every age and color are senselessly killed every single day all over the world and nobody seems to give a shit about that (and by killed I do mean as victims of shootings).

During my first rape, I sincerely wished I'd had a gun. A registered, legal to own and use for my personal safety gun. Especially since, as you say, weren't no rescue comin' my way.

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scarybaldguy December 15 2012, 01:57:57 UTC
A lot of my students were women who'd been raped. Every single one of them said exactly what you said here. As I see it, killing a rapist is a public service. But there are those who disagree and claim that a rapist's life is worth exactly the same as his victim's, and those people are invariably opposed to private gun ownership. Makes me wonder who's side they're on.

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grimalkinrn December 15 2012, 05:52:40 UTC
I can't take it. I've always been your friend, but differing views do not deserve a "fuck you."

Goodbye.

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my_window_seat December 15 2012, 06:48:42 UTC
One day.

Why couldn't they wait one
fucking
day?

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achinhibitor December 16 2012, 20:45:34 UTC
Why couldn't they wait one fucking day?

It won't sell newspapers as well tomorrow.

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bttfbabe December 15 2012, 08:16:56 UTC
Exactly! Stop blaming every gun owner for one loose cannon. Just because a person owns a weapon, it doesn't mean that he/she has an itchy trigger finger. It's so ridiculous! Personally, I don't own a gun or want to own a gun, but I would never force that choice on anyone else.

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scarybaldguy December 15 2012, 08:29:57 UTC
And this is coming from the Vermonter, where carry law comes down to "do what you want, just don't be a dick about it" and massacres are non-existent.

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half_shadow December 15 2012, 19:19:12 UTC
I've just been raging about how this isn't a cry for gun law reform but a cry for mental health reform. I was ranting to a coworker yesterday about how with shit like this, you always hear, "Someone knew...," "He reached out...," "His therapist/doctor said...," "There were signs..." That is what disturbs me every time, far more than what the murder weapon was. Our society needs to stop demonizing those with mental and/or behavioral illness and provide actual care. We shouldn't just ignore them, push them away, shame them, and make it impossible to get help ( ... )

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