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sarcasticchick

Wow. I live in a nation of [censored for excessive use of explitives]

Jul 27, 2008 13:16

Seriously. I know not everyone in the US is like this. But on the other hand, the fact that there are quite a few people in the US who think like this just ... angers me/frustrates me/makes me sick/embarrasses me on a global scale ( Read more... )

rant

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algor_langeaux July 27 2008, 21:26:23 UTC

I don't know about "gay" but he does seem happy and well adjusted... which doesn't sound a *BIT* like Captain America.

...of course he *IS* an actor, so he can *ACT* like a neurotic narrow minded hyper-patriotic wanker that thinks he is the policeman for the whole world... and express his white homophobic rights all over a few fags on the weekends in a dark alley somewhere.

*sigh*

sarcasticchick July 28 2008, 04:39:14 UTC

Heh - I don't even know the character of Captain America - the name itself sounds a bit ostentatious to me. It's just the fundamentals of it all. This is a very well known UK/US actor that the US public is freaking out over, claiming he can't play a role because he's openly gay. It's both ridiculous and embarrassing that for such a 'world power' we can be so hopelessly backwards.

echoingvista July 27 2008, 23:01:40 UTC

Ugh. I'm not a big comic book fan myself, but my best friend's brother is, and even he thinks the backlash is bullshit. As for Captain America being "all American" (and god, we don't want America promoting homosexuality!), he said that actually, Superman is the "face of America" - Captain America is actually a former Communist.

Take that, bitches.

(And would it really be so hard for these people to use Google to find out that John's American? Seriously. You can't fake his accent.)

sarcasticchick July 28 2008, 04:44:30 UTC

Interesting. Although, yay for Captain America for changing to American democrazy! It's the only way, you know. He's better for it, he really is.

I don't know anything about the char. It's more just outrage over the stupidity of the gen populi and for continuing to give the US a bad name.

The Google - it's a difficult task to undertake.

eumenidis July 28 2008, 01:24:00 UTC

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Is it that JB is gay, or that he's open about being gay that's the problem? Actors who're gay have been playing macho characters for...well, ever, so why's it suddenly a problem? As for promoting the wrong values: what, some people object to being honest & responsible, working hard, loving your family, being active in the community, & donating to charities & other worthy causes? Yeah, I can see their point, it'd be catastrophic if straight men started emulating *that* behavior...

sarcasticchick July 28 2008, 04:53:58 UTC

i think it's the fact that he's openly gay.

i think it'd be an interesting debate comparing why it's perceived as 'acceptable' that Sir ian play a comic book supervillain, but it's not okay for equally 'out' JB to play a comic book superhero.

or maybe that debate would just turn depressing as it would probably correlate homosexuality = evil/bad, straight = good.

*sniggers at the emulating behavior thing* so true.

eumenidis July 28 2008, 07:10:36 UTC

I think you're right.

I'm very much afraid a debate would get depressing the moment it began as I'm sure the base ideas are exactly that.

*Isn't* it though?

mica_chan July 28 2008, 14:42:07 UTC

I don't remember Captain America very well (I used to read when I was a kid, but I don't see anything about it for more than 20 years), but I can't see JB as Captain America, even though I really would like to see him in a big screen ^_^.
I was shocked how people can be prejudiced. Good Lord! As if a lot of the usual actors weren't gay or at least bi, tsc, tsc, tsc. The problem with JB is that he is openly gay, as 'eumenidis' said.

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eumenidis July 28 2008, 07:14:28 UTC

Bugger, forgot to log back in: anyway, that was me.

anonymous July 29 2008, 13:42:58 UTC

It really is stupid how pathetic some people can be. The whole point of acting is to play the part of someone you're not, why should being gay or straight make a difference? It should only be dependent on whether the person can act the part and physically fit the role.

On an ironic note though I did find out about a character called Arnold Roth in Captain America. He was a childhood friend who turned out to be gay and in a loving relationship when they met again. Not only was Captain America fine with that, he stood up for him. (Link to his character info here: http://www.gayleague.com/gay/characters/display.php?id=17) Thought you might like to know.