Blue Dong

[sailorgaia]

I think one of the worst things that has happened to us as a society is the daily inclusion of psychoanalysis in our lives. I noticed that most everyone believes to be proficient in it and will apply what they’ve picked up liberally when giving you unsolicited advice. I sometime think this is because we’ve seen it too much on television, where so

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[cranberrysheep]

First - Male bits are gross.

Second - I'm all for complicated characters. 2D characters are fine in some cases, but interest in them can be easily lost. However, without having seen this film I am almost 90% sure I would agree with you. Complications/angst/soapboxing gets old for me REALLY FAST. Like "V for Vendetta" - hated it. Bored out of my mind.

Call me naive, call me simple. I like happy endings. I like when love conquers over hate; good over evil. I can appreciate stories that take a darker view on things, I may even enjoy some of them, but I will never see them as superior to 'lighter' stories simply because they are darker.

[sailorgaia]

Call me naive, call me simple. I like happy endings.

You won't catch me insulting you that way; I'd call you sensible! The reason I have such a problem with dark stories that point out the evil inherent in man with a big, red, angsty arrow is that I agree with them. Man is born nasty and selfish; every baby demands attention greedily and a child will be naughty without being taught so. We teach the instinctual nastiness out of us but even so, who hasn't said something that hurt another or done something wrong? One need not mention the daily crimes people who were taught better commit

[cranberrysheep]

I definitely believe there is a call for films/books/stories/whatever that explore the nastiness of humanity. We can't just sweep all that under the rug. Some of the most interesting stories are the most disturbing. That doesn't mean they have more merit though, because just like you said - humans are capable of more. And we should strive for that.

[sailorgaia]

I so agree; there are plenty of films that explore the dark side but are wise enough to come up from it at the end, at least shining a definite light on the bad and making it clear that it is so. Like, I know this may be cliche, but I really liked Schindler's List; it's a sad story, yet hopeful for better things. There are plenty of films like that that aren't necessiarily "inspriational" but have a clear understanding that we should rise above the inherent nastiness. Watchmen got a bit mixed up, not suprising after reading about the comic book's author/illustrator. He's kinda a hippie that didn't want anything to do with the movie, despite the fact that it stayed so true to his work. !

[dali_lamb]

Completely agreed--I can't stand the idea that "dur, I attended PSYCH 101 *when I wasn't drunk* and so I have the right to psycho-analyze everything." And, sorry, some psychoanalysis is FUCKED UP. Freud, for instance, who was the basis for many of the 20th century psychological diagnosis, was screwed up, not to mention sexist. While I admit that some people have some serious disorders,I don't like so many hypochondriacs latching on to this idea subconciously and claiming to have every disorder under the sun. It's a fuzz area for me, and I don't like self-proclaimed experts, espcially writers -_

[sailorgaia]

I thought I sounded clever...but you sunk my battleship. Double whammy with the Gordon icon. Anything with Gordon makes it seem more legit, more wise.

Seriously though, I agree with you. I hate this overmedication crap going on today. I wish people would be more responsible for their own actions instead of finding every way to avoid responsibility. I didn't think it was possible, but now we can explain away every embarrasing thing we've done or said to some disorder! No one is merely "normal;" we're all victims. ::rage::

What else was the stupid flying machine used for?! They saved a few people on whim and then basically decided to use it for a flying fuck palace! I can't imagine how many people they smashed up while having it off, auto-pilot be damned!

[paradoxymoron]

First: Your youtube link is borked. WIll not load. :(

Second: Give up the Lifetime, honey, you know they're bad.

Third: Hope and love are foolish. It doesn't mean they're not necessary.

Fourth: Why does the blue dong have theme music? Your headspace is a skerry skerry place, m'dear. :P

Fifth: I got carded for buying beer last week. And I didn't get carded for the movie. What's the analysis on that?! Stupid beer.

[sailorgaia]

1.) Fixed, but you can see it directly here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd6MuqrnHog

2.) Lifetime sux monkey balls. On Sunday afternoon, though, I generally take a nap after church and the only movies on tv to nap to are Lifetime films. Plus, they can sometimes be the most hilarious things ever. I'd hate anyone to think I actually like those films though. They're CRAP.

3.) Hope and love are only foolish to a cynical mind, IMO.

4.) Remember the Vietnam scene when Blue Dong was blowing up Vietnamese with the Comedian? That's what was playing the background, hence it's his dong's theme.

5.) I think a bigger commentary was how this film didn't have to work hard to get a mere R while South Park had to bend over backward to get out of NC-17 range because of the language, which is even more ironic as the film was all about bad languaged being cencored!! But yeah, sloppy beer tending and lazy highschool movie workers explains your situation away. ^^;

[dali_lamb]

hmmm... I think it should be the "Ding Dong Song," honestly. I mean Dr. Manhatten IS the epitome of Gunther.

~Tori

[sailorgaia]

"Oh, you touched my tra la la. Mmmmm my ding ding dong!"

Hrmmm... MV in the works? XD

[emmylouangel]

Honestly, as someone who has talked to a few big Watchmen fans, the film sucks opposed to the comic.

In the comic, none of the watchmen have super powers except Dr. Manhatten. There isn't a huge exposition bomb at the end that explains the philosophy behind the movie. And SSII breaks up with Dr. M and GRADUALLY falls in love with Nite Owl.

I think my boyfriend explains it best when he said, "The movie is like when you have a favorite book and your friend comes in and says they just finished reading it. Then someone asks your friend what it was about and he leaves out a few of your favorite parts, gets parts wrong and just has a wrong concept of what its REALLY about."

In a nutshell, at one point, I stopped overall paying attention because my boyfriend said I would like the comic way better. I am hoping to read it soon.

[sailorgaia]

That's actually a really good analogy because it felt like that was the case. To wait until you've read it before you see the movie is perhaps a very wise decision with this, as it is with lots of stories that have been adapted for the screen. I did feel like I might have appreciated everything more had I been a solid fan of the novel; had all the information beforehand. It had a very interesting concept, which I needlessly forgot to add in my critique. ^^;

I know SSII is with Nite Owl in the end but it still felt like she betrayed him for a lifeless jerk. It touched my "cheer for the mild nice guy" heart. It's good to know that officially their relationship is solid...cuz that matters to hopeless romantics like me! <3

[darbdash]

The comic actually explains a few things a bit better (though I liked the end of the movie much more than the comic; the comic had almost everyone complicit in things at the end). The entire deal with how The Comedian and Silk Spectre's Mom got together (years after the attempted rape) was one of those things explained a bit more. If I remember correctly, it was explained like this, "He came over, we talked, found that we were two lonely people, and then one thing led to the other..."

As for Silk Spectre going back to Dr. Manhattan, I didn't see it so much as her going back to him (remember, she did tell Night Owl to "trust me") as much as I saw it as her trying one last time to get Dr. Deus Ex Machina to come back and solve the problems of the world.

And yes, once I noticed the blue wang, it disturbed me. Sure, it was in the comic, but I didn't need to see it. Nor did I need to see that extended sex scene between Night Owl and Silk Spectre. A bit of innuendo would have been perfectly fine there.