LJ You are Killing ME

Sep 22, 2010 04:04

Why can't LJ just give us a fucking opt out of this FB/Twitter shit?  Saying they respect our privacy concerns and still giving Cryllic users the ability to cross post flocked/protected information is just not acceptable ( Read more... )

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feliciakw September 22 2010, 10:48:17 UTC
Maybe I misunderstood. I thought that they were saying that if your LJ is in English, then your lock-protected posts and comments cannot be cross-posted. Since it would be totally pointless for me to have a Cyrillic LJ as I don't read the language, my LJ is in English, all the comments on my LJ are in English, and my comments on other LJs (which won't be on a Cyrillic LJ because I can't read Cyrillic) will be in English on English-language LJs ( ... )

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feliciakw September 22 2010, 10:57:42 UTC
ETA: Ah. I just went back and re-read the beginning of the LJ announcement. I certainly see the problem. It appears as if an English-language LJ can opt in to this service. Which . . . bzuh?

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saberivojo September 23 2010, 12:22:56 UTC
See, this is what I am talking about? I am confused. And I am angry that the people at LJ are just not listening about what the majority of folks are saying. It is just mouth service, like yeah, we understand and agree with your privacy issues blah, blah, blah. Here is a bandaid. Its not gonna stop any bleeding out but we took the time to pull it out of the wrapper and stick it on your skin.

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sylvanwitch September 22 2010, 12:30:32 UTC
My understanding is that only the comment poster's comments can be cross-posted, regardless of language. That is, if someone commented on a non-flocked post of yours, he could cross-post ONLY his comment--not a link to your post, not the content of the post he was commenting on.

Perhaps I've misunderstood, too, but I don't think anyone can cross-post *your* content.

Of course, even without the cross-post thing, anyone could post a link to your unflocked entries. I mean, that's always been true. We just trust each other not to do that. :-)

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saberivojo September 23 2010, 12:35:16 UTC
I know. I trust that most in LJ would be respectful about cross posting unflocked entries, just because it is the right thing to do. But what I am more concerned about is flocked entries.

The latest from the dickheads at LJ is this:

We've disabled the ability to cross-post comments on privacy-protected entries and screened comments for non-Cyrillic users. If you've opted into Cyrillic services, you'll still be able to cross-post protected and screened comments. (If you recently opted into Cyrillic services to purchase custom userheads, you can opt out and retain your purchased userheads.)To me, that means if you opt for Cryillic services you can STILL CROSS-POST PROTECTED AND SCREENED COMMENTS. How is that stopping people from cross posting protected and screened comments? It doesn't. My thought is that if I post a comment or reply to a comment that is flocked, I don't think that anyone should be able to read that comment unless they are part of the protected group ( ... )

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sylvanwitch September 23 2010, 12:46:07 UTC
I understand your frustration and am not saying that LJ has ever been a paragon of careful forethought and planning. However, I think unless Aunt Matilda can read Cyrillic, you're probably going to be okay, since that's a whole other alphabet, etc., and presumably if you've got Cyrillic services, you write and read Cyrillic. Of course, they're based in Russia now, so the Cyrillic thing makes sense--new markets, etc.

Of course, I'm not defending their boneheadedness. I'm just suggesting that maybe you don't have to worry as much unless you do, in fact, have relatives who are fluent in Cyrillic. ;-)

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saberivojo September 23 2010, 14:44:35 UTC
I know but then felciakw posted this on the above post ETA: Ah. I just went back and re-read the beginning of the LJ announcement. I certainly see the problem. It appears as if an English-language LJ can opt in to this service. Which . . . bzuh?

So now I am confused. I appreciate your calming zen-like words of wisdom. I hope you are right and I am wrong.

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saberivojo September 23 2010, 12:45:45 UTC
I know. I agree. Usually I am a pretty big advocate of not making waves and not sweating the small shit. But - I think in this case, LJ has marketing journals as a place to talk freely among friends, sometimes in a way that is less than flattering to other people. I realize that any unflocked post is available to the public, which is why I am very careful when I comment to make sure that I am positive. I chose my words carefully. But - if I am flocking something that I want to share with friends, I am a little more free with my verbage and my feelings. I should be able to be, they are my friends. I realize that they would probably never intentionally post something on FB but if the ability is there, things could happen. I mean nothing is truly safe on the internet but why make accidental cross posting easier?

I dunno, I just feel betrayed by LJ. An my RL is so hard right now, this is the one place I can let me be me.

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