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Статья британского политолога русского происхождения Анатоля Ливена о недавнем "Валдайском клубе"

Sep 17, 2010 12:37

Очень критический отзыв о лекции А.Б.Зубова на Валдайском клубе (в статье его имя не названо, но речь идет именно о нем). В целом, статья содержит несколько интересных мыслей и "взгляд со стороны" на российских участников форума.

Commentary: Reexamining Russian History | The National Interest

Anatol Lieven
One of the main themes of the Valdai Club ( Read more... )

А.Б.Зубов, критика, дискуссия

Comments 6

v_s_c September 17 2010, 12:57:43 UTC

О! Еще один Anatol хочет держать нас за козлов. "Almost four decades of much milder Soviet rule"! Это он будет рассказывать мне, выросшему в стране вечнозеленых помидоров с дедушкой Лениным на каждой стенке? Нет уж! Кромвеля надо сначала выкопать, повесить и обезглавить, а уж позже думать, стоит ставить ему памятник или нет.

enzel September 17 2010, 13:10:01 UTC

Это родственник Доминика? Не сын ли?

russia_xx September 17 2010, 14:21:10 UTC

Брат

guilt by association kowalskil September 17 2010, 15:41:28 UTC

Yes, all Russians should non be blamed for Katyn. Yes, most victims of Stalinism were Russians. I should have added this to a reply I sent to someone today, as shown below ( ... )

Re: guilt by association enzel September 17 2010, 16:44:22 UTC

Even more: all Poles should not be blamed for Dzierzynski and Mezynski, all Georgians - for Dzhugashvili and Beria, and all Jews - for Gelfand (Parvus), Bronstein, and, say, Yagoda. However, to be historically honest, we should not forget about the national backgrounds of the persons actively involved into the events, especially if they played key parts in those.

domitori September 20 2010, 05:43:59 UTC

Some statements by Anatol Lieven look at least doubtful, I discuss them below.

1. About "support President Dmitri Medvedev to galvanize Russian reform and bring about a clear break with the Soviet past..". This looks strange. However, after his talk
"Россия, вперед!" (2009 Sept.10) and the "unofficial" letter
"Дорогие соотечественники.." (2010 April 10), some people could believe that Medvedev tries to do something to save Russia.
On the other hand, he did not dismount the KGB, did not removed from the government ministers who spend the budget of the country for the pseudo-scientific projects like gravitsapa. Medvedev did not interested to investigate the falsification of history, for example, in the case of the Georgian war: he knows that Russia had lost thousands lives in that war, while the minister Anatoliy Serdyukov recognizes only 67 of them ( ... )