Meta, Hijacking, Give the Pevensies A Friend

Apr 30, 2010 10:13


Some rambling meta, over here rather than clogging up animus_wyrmis's LJ on Give the Pevensie A Friend.  Given the number of OCs who run around in my stories, the creating of friends (or even more of them) wasn't a problem.  It was shutting up about them.

Peter )

stone gryphon, commentfic, meta

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autumnia April 30 2010, 14:45:54 UTC
I'm glad you summarized the thread jacking here. It's easier to keep track of it this way ( ... )

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rthstewart April 30 2010, 15:33:24 UTC
Since Mary is okay (I assume she is) with Richard and Wangari together, would this mean she'd be fine if Polly ever had a fling with Richard now? Polly and Mary have things in common and yet they are so very different -- is this part of the attraction Richard has for Polly?

"Richard, let this be our compromise then. I shall not expect fidelity from you and you shall not expect obedience from me. Though..."

Propped over him on an elbow, her fingertips paused in their thorough explorations; a scowl marred her young face. "Though, might you at least promise to avoid sex with the stupid women? I would be irritated with you then."

A guffaw escaped him, though really, he should not have been surprised. Richard settled back against the hotel pillows. "I shall have the solicitor include administration of an aptitude test in the section of the pre-nuptial entitled Philandering?"

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autumnia April 30 2010, 18:14:22 UTC
"Though, might you at least promise to avoid sex with the stupid women? I would be irritated with you then."

Ah Mary, ever so openminded and forward thinking; she's definitely way ahead of her time.

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intrikate88 May 1 2010, 01:15:43 UTC
It is during this trip that he tells her that Mary has been asking him to marry her and Richard gets all seductive manipulative and Polly will have none of it. I think, Richard always longs for Polly and never gets what he wants. Back a chapter or two ago, when Polly goes to Russell House, the implication is that Mary wants to get Polly drunk and seduce her and Kwong Lee enables it.

WAIT WHAT OMG HOW DID I NOT CATCH THAT AND ALSO ADDITIONAL FIC ALONG THESE LINES MAY BE REQUIRED

*scampers back to read*

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rthstewart May 1 2010, 01:42:20 UTC
The Richard, Polly, Valentine's Day piece is over on Animus' LJ, along with some other things. As for the implication regarding Polly and Mary:

Weary of the perpetual summonses, Edmund sat at the bottom of the stair, skimming Lady Chatterley’s Lover.

Peter loomed at the stair. “What are you reading?”

“Lady Chatterley’s Lover I really don’t understand the fuss ( ... )

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autumnia May 1 2010, 02:47:03 UTC
“I thought I’d give it to Eustace.” -- Supposing that Edmund did do so, I wonder what Eustace would think of it all (let's disregard his initial reaction to the story as Ed had described it in the pub with Asim listening in). As Peter had thought, Edmund discussing the necessary company of woman with their newly converted cousin would be most alarming.

I must tell you that you have been influencing my book reading. I went to the bookstore yesterday and now Lady Chatterly's Lover is awaiting my attention when I finally have some time to read it.

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rthstewart May 2 2010, 00:37:43 UTC
I read LCL in high school a very (very) long time ago and didn't think much of it. DH Lawrence seemed rather focused on over the top metaphor.

Yes, I know, I didn't answer your other questions. H&M is to come, though the basics of it are already in place.

I don't really know about the Colonel/Susan story. It's a different story, it doesn't quite fit, but I'm sure that some elements will show up eventually. It would obviously not be a short story and I'm not sure if I'd have the energy or if there would be the interest in a story that is post crash and so heavily reliant upon OCs. I still have to get to Part 3, which means, still having to get to Part 2.

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l_a_r_m May 1 2010, 03:12:32 UTC
I am a part of Alice? *blushes* I feel as if it makes me part of some super awesome secret rebel club. Sweeet!

Thank you for this! I always pester you for more info about your fabulous characters and here we have nice linear explanations laid out for us. Agnes writing fanfic! Susan and George (yes yes YES)! (Timelines be damned, this is so fabulous. PLEASE WRITE!) From what you've said, I suspect Richard always longs for Polly *because* he never gets what he wants.

Part 4. OMFG YES. This would be the fulfillment of my life. It would be like, beyond perfect. Imagine the dramatic summaries! The titles! I'll write them for you. Something along the lines of "Part 4: The Story Never Meant to be Told" or "Part 4: Beyond Death - The Fight Continues" or "Susan: The Untold Story". I've got a ton. Lols! But really, it would be so brillz. Because Susan's story after never *was* told. Please please please! And remember you owe Tebbitt that leading role.

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rthstewart May 2 2010, 00:27:08 UTC
You all would be totally awesome friends to Lucy and Susan. You've nailed it about Richard and Polly is emotionally careful enough to keep the distance that allows her to maintain their relationship and her emotional self-respect. I can't help thinking that Digory might have been a very useful friend and model for her in this. For all that Digory is very Victorian in outlook with no interest in sexuality at all, he is a very keen and sensible observer.

As for Tebbitt, you need to watch a few minutes of Parts 1 and 2 of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. I saw bits of Tebbitt in the agents Jim Prideaux, Peter Guillame, and Ricky Tarr. I see a lot of the Colonel in the George Smiley

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ilysia_039 May 1 2010, 19:10:59 UTC
One word: Yes. That is all. This is so wonderfully amazing... (and, on the side, being even a small part of Alice makes me blush and feel amazingly wonderful. So.) All of this will get much more- much, much more- attention when the world stops throwing things at me. Until then, simply: YES.

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rthstewart May 2 2010, 00:08:36 UTC
We will see you on the other side! Oh yes, Alice was totally all you amazing women who would of course be fabulous friends to Lucy and Susan.

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min023 May 1 2010, 22:01:47 UTC
Like the others, OMG! Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. I love it all. So I assume that university Peter has done his duty, found it awful, and is finally seeking his true path? And the suggestion of another Susan not-chapter is an excellent one, too. Oh, my -Polly. Missed it too. So should we ask if Mary was successful in her devious plan, or do we just go with Ed's 'not relevant'?

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rthstewart May 2 2010, 00:22:15 UTC
The Polly thing is only there is someone knew I intended it. It's deliberately not obvious for all the obvious reasons. I did see Polly as being very libertine about it all, possibly even preferring female relations, at least for a time, to avoid complications. It was, however, something I'd considered for a really, really long time. The dialog between Peter and Edmund (I have circulated it among a few people -- I don't think I posted it here) is something that I also wrote a long time ago, but never included and a version of it might show in Part 3 (assuming, all together now, I EVER GET THERE). It's not relevant to the story at all, but only to the characters and their interactions with one another. It's really about Richard being a jerk to women, Polly emotionally careful enough to avoid it, Mary not caring because she loves him so much, and Mary's not unfounded insecurities. I spend way too much time thinking about the OCs obviously -- the first sign that an author has created a Sue, though I continue to think of Mary as a ( ... )

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