Fish the second.

Jul 29, 2011 11:32

Poll Continuing the theme from yesterday, seeing as how L.J is actually working now. Notorious and revered blogger davesmusictank along with equally notorious and revered keresaspa voted that Argentina and Russia were the most anti-UK. Perhaps. Falklands/Malvinas aside the Argies do not give a fandango about Britain. Venezuela and Bolivia are both not fans, one can include ( Read more... )

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celestialweasel July 29 2011, 13:15:54 UTC
Why does your tracker think I am in Watford today? Very bizarre.

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shanghai7 July 29 2011, 15:17:07 UTC
Cos it is a lousy tracker;)

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keresaspa July 29 2011, 17:04:29 UTC
China, Iran and North Korea would all see Britain for what it is - a third-rate stooge of their real foe America. Argentina on the other hand has been producing a regular stream of anti-British rhetoric and literature since at least the Irazusta brothers in the 1930s.

EDIT: And I should specify that I took "anti-UK nation" to mean the country where they are most widely hated rather than just where they have an anti-British government. The British are detested by most ordinary Argentinians.

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steepholm July 29 2011, 18:57:00 UTC
I must protest that Britain is a first-rate stooge for America. Do they have any better?

As for the Argentines' detestation, I speak from a position of ignorance, so I'd be interested to know why that might be. Is it all about those disputed Atlantic islands? Or because the British helped them gain independence from Spain with more than half an eye on making money on the deal? (Not nice, but then altruism is pretty rare in foreign policy - and do they detest the Spanish even more?) Otherwise, I'd have thought the UK today was an irrelevance to most Argentines, as Argentina is to most Brits, and to read that they're detested is almost as puzzling as to read that the people of Nepal have a scunner against Iceland - which for all I know they do.

I remember btw that Borges seemed something of an Anglophile, at least in terms of his literary references, though I know nothing of his politics. I wonder if he was something of an aberration?

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ron_broxted July 29 2011, 19:14:58 UTC
Haiti is better than us! As I said in another reply there is a huge Anglo-Argie contingent, but, basically, since 1982 they are not fans of Inglaterra. Falklands/Malvinas have oil...

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keresaspa July 30 2011, 00:42:00 UTC
For the two reasons you name in particular the money-making one which was a big theme for Roberto de Laferrère, the Irazustas and others of that ilk. To the best of my awareness Borges never had any involvement with that bunch of reprobates. There was also some football stuff specifically against England rather than Britain as a whole. Not having had an empire I suppose Argentina is a bit starved of rivals really and has had to latch on to whoever it could.

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Re: Pet my loins. ron_broxted July 29 2011, 19:11:59 UTC
Then why have them? If enough of us stand up it MAY help. The ZaNuLabour party shat themselves when 2 million signed a No Higher Petrol price petition!

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Re: Pet my loins. ron_broxted July 29 2011, 20:05:41 UTC
Now I am starting to think that I was right initially, that petitions are not a waste of time. Petrol prices showed public ire but I just signed one about a hunger striker. Stop being grouchy!

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Re: Pet my loins. ron_broxted July 29 2011, 20:26:15 UTC
We are not a Buddhist are we? Yes there are days when I think "Fuck this". Islam holds that when one dies a scale is set up, if more evil than good you go to hell. There is no constitution ion the U.K...

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