'Dying on a Prayer' thoughts

Nov 16, 2014 00:00

Reasonably satisfied with the episode.

The opening credits, however...
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trobadora November 16 2014, 14:38:14 UTC
...why is Hitler back in the credits again?

*sighs* I'm so with you on this - I really wish that was gone for good.

I can breathe a little easier now.

I'm glad! I think in general this show is pretty good with not picking up the skeevier aspects of its sources, but yeah, I wouldn't want to put my faith in that either.

not sure why the stepdad needed to be a Troll...or needed to be a Wesen at all

I think may just be Wesen-of-the-week syndrome, and the usual Wesen-as-metaphor-for-human-excesses, but maybe it's also specifically for Nick. I mean, he's been feeling helpless with all the Wesen stuff, not being a Grimm, but here you have a case that does involve Wesen but where being a Grimm wouldn't have helped in the slightest. That's something he probably needed.

though the timing is interesting - they only start throwing bricks after a Hexenbiest moves in

I'm not sure they're aware of who Elizabeth is? Certainly antagonising her would be a lot more dangerous than going after Monroe and Rosalee on their own.

One wonders if she' ( ... )

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rodlox November 16 2014, 21:40:40 UTC
that was me; sorry.

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rodlox November 16 2014, 21:42:32 UTC
>but where being a Grimm wouldn't have helped in the slightest. That's something he probably needed.
excellent point - I hadn't considered that (but wish i had)

though the Devils Advocate part of me, pipes up with "but then why not start off (halfway or third-way in) with Nick thinking the Golem's a Wesen*, and then realize what you pointed out?"

* = in a way, he sorta did...with everyone searching the Grimm Archives (for want of a better term)

>I'm not sure they're aware of who Elizabeth is? Certainly antagonising her would be a lot more dangerous
true, but Hexenbiests seem to be like Grimm - after their history, there's pretty much nobody who seems to like them on general principles.

also, given how many of the onscreen groups seem to have/had spies and informants and plants, I figured that *somebody* knew who/what Elizabeth is...(if nothing else, the Royals probably keep an eye on her)

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trobadora November 16 2014, 22:16:06 UTC
I don't disagree at all! I think it worked the way it was, but they could have done it differently and made it work without any Wesen in it at all.

true, but Hexenbiests seem to be like Grimm - after their history, there's pretty much nobody who seems to like them on general principles.

Yeah, that's true. No one seems to like them, and for good reason, it appears!

(if nothing else, the Royals probably keep an eye on her)

From what I remember, Elizabeth was in hiding before this, but coming to Portland must have put her back on the Royals' radar. I wonder if we're going to see some fallout from that ...

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mustangcandi November 16 2014, 16:13:51 UTC
I quit watching this show ages ago, so I can't really comment on anything here... other than to say Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. I was just thinking about you yesterday and realizing you hadn't been around in LJ for a while. I hope you had a wonderful birthday yesterday!!!!! It's good to read you again. :)

*hugs

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_lyra_b November 17 2014, 03:45:35 UTC
not sure why the stepdad needed to be a Troll...or needed to be a Wesen at all.
My take is that it had to do with the monster/bad guy element that allowed the boy to (sort of) defeat the Golem at the end. Had the step-dad not been Wesen, Trubel wouldn't have been involved and wouldn't have encourage David to stand up and fight 'the monsters'.

I always fast forward through the credits and have never noticed Hitler! Kind of odd and inappropriate. :/

Trubel did seem to be overwhelmed by the knowledge that there are more than just Wesen. Poor kid.

Overall, I'm really enjoying Season 4.

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rodlox November 17 2014, 03:57:34 UTC
>My take is that it had to do with the monster/bad guy element that allowed the boy to (sort of) defeat the Golem at the end. Had the step-dad not been Wesen, Trubel wouldn't have been involved and wouldn't have encourage David to stand up and fight 'the monsters'.
makes sense.

I need to re-watch the episode, there were probably scenes I missed. (again. as usual)

when it comes to the credits, you are wiser than I am.

>odd and inappropriate.
yes. yes it is - he was in one brief scene in one episode last season (or the season before then)...and he gets more credits time than Wu, who's in nearly every ep?

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entwashian November 18 2014, 06:43:51 UTC
I'm pretty sure the golem is actually dead (at least, until someone else prays for protection). The uncle was unable to deliver the shem to the golem's mouth to destroy it per the plan, but the boy did stab it multiple times with his action figure -- an action figure that both he and Trubel had imbued with the belief that good can destroy evil.

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