Thank God, I already thought that I'm the only one that wasn't satisfied with the episode.
I'm consistently amazed at how some of the people at Special Ops rate episodes. On one hand, they'll complain about being underwhelmed or disappointed, but they'll then turn around and give it a 9. That's not disappointed, ya know?
For a season finale I was expecting much more.
And for something as hyped as it was? Gah.
He finally get's the credit he deserves and they really have to stop that stupid and childish portrayal of him.
Please. He'll be back to being written as the village idiot by 8x03.
The scenes between Tony and Ziva were brilliant.
Totally agreed. Unlike earlier this season when he was making the borderline xenophobic comments about her becoming a citizen, you really got the feeling that he was joking and teasing her. They were excellent together.
It's really more than sad that Tony had the assignment in Mexico and couldn't be there.
It's isn't sad to me; it's stupid. It was implied that Vance sent him there to murder
( ... )
The kind of relationship we saw in this episode. The get along well, teasing and smiling and standing close to each other and not being at each other's throat all the time or making stupid comments. I think that they share a deep friendship now again.
What I didn't understand was why Gibbs didn't show up later at Ziva's ceremony.
Because he's a jackass.
Couldn't have found a better word to describe him :-)
I'm consistently amazed at how some of the people at Special Ops rate episodes. On one hand, they'll complain about being underwhelmed or disappointed, but they'll then turn around and give it a 9. That's not disappointed, ya know?
They are not the only ones that have a weird sense rating an episode or seeing things. People on the official yahoo-group pretty much write the same as people on Special-Ops. But judging from the official ratings for the show, this episode was almost a disaster, at least I think so when "The Biggest Loser" gets better ratings than this episode.
But judging from the official ratings for the show, this episode was almost a disaster, at least I think so when "The Biggest Loser" gets better ratings than this episode.
I still halfway expect next season to end up being the final season if ratings continue to sink right alongside show quality. And of course, a certain segment of the fandom will try to blame Cote/Ziva for being the reason NCIS started to suck.
How long do you think it'll take for them to kick Shane Brennan to the curb with how rapidly ratings have fallen from the high point this season?
I wasn't very interested in the Gibbs stuff...at all. But I'm not usually. So I can't comment much on that except the whole "I laugh in your face even though I'm in semi-imminent danger" was pretty over done and cliche. As was the acting of the Reynosa character. She was just utterly ridiculous in her delivery. It was a lot like watching a cheesy action flick, minus the action
( ... )
And since we're talking about absurdities in the show, how come no one has pointed out that no one on Gibbs' team would be allowed to investigate this crime legally?
I mean fuck, it's apparently a huge deal to people that Ziva was able to become a citizen and apparently it's "offensive". But Gibbs' crossing borders (and I'm assuming illegally, cause wouldn't Vance and someone be able to track his movements if it were legal.) Not to mention Vance's 'wink-wink-nudge-nudge' deal. I'm sure directors of federal agencies do this all the time. Not like it's srs bsns.
how come no one has pointed out that no one on Gibbs' team would be allowed to investigate this crime legally?
Sort of like there is zero chance that Gibbs' team would have been allowed to investigate his former mother-in-law? It's one of those moments of utter ridiculousness that we're supposed to accept in the name of "drama."
As I said after "Mother's Day," NCIS officially jumped the shark this season and barring something ... miraculous, I don't see how they can recover, not with utter mediocrity like this airing. Pity, though. After "Patriot Down" (which kicked all sorts of ass), I foolishly let my hopes get up...
As was the acting of the Reynosa character. She was just utterly ridiculous in her delivery. It was a lot like watching a cheesy action flick, minus the action.
Excellent point. As a straight guy, my very first reaction to seeing her was "nice ass," but beyond that, I just couldn't take her seriously.
I SINCERELY hope they don't make Ziva act like a turd towards Tony for missing it.
Oh, they will. I just know it. Since they've reached that point where it ceases making since that Tony/Ziva haven't fallen into bed together, they need something to maintain the holding pattern for a while longer.
More so in the 'she's gotten boring' way.
Yeah, she's kind of turned into the Token Girl on the team. Most of the time, it's like they just can't figure out how to use her which is why I really liked the Tony/Ziva partnership in this episode. They really showed that the two of them really don't need Gibbs or McGee to be a kick ass investigative team (I'm reminded of a fic I read a while back where Tony was joking about them doing a Hart to
( ... )
Yes, there was some very good elements in this ep - the Tony/Ziva partnership was quite well done throughout, with good-natured teasing that didn't feel mean; the continued presence of competent Tony was very nice to behold
The Tony/Ziva interaction was so my favorite thing about this episode. They were both so competent! Comfortable around each other! Working together effectively! They had each other's backs and they knew it! Cripes, why can't they act like this in every episode? Oh yeah, because then I'd die from happiness.
The thing that probably bothered me the most was the implication that Vance sent Tony to Mexico ... on an assassination mission.
Yeah, that bothered me a lot too. Especially that he sent Tony to Mexico without backup. (And that he made him miss Ziva's citizenship ceremony, which was surprisingly poignant and beautiful. ((The ceremony, I mean, not Tony's missing it.)) I could kill you for that, Vance.) I almost believe it's not an assassination mission, just for that reason. When Tony bumped into Mike, didn't
( ... )
Cripes, why can't they act like this in every episode?
Because the showrunners have a distorted view of what made Tony/Ziva fun to watch.
I almost believe it's not an assassination mission, just for that reason. When Tony bumped into Mike, didn't he say he was there to "observe and report," or something like that?
Yeah, he did, but there is no logic whatsoever to sending Tony to Mexico to tail a guy who knows full well what DiNozzo looks like. Send someone from a different office, like Callen from LA.
As to the 'observe and report' thing, the earlier scene between Gibbs and Vance seemed to imply (or rather, I inferred) that, because Gibbs said nothing, Vance was going to take steps to sanction Alejandro. Even with Franks, I doubt Tony would come out and say "I'm here to kill that SOB over there," so sending one of the agency's top senior field agents to follow a guy seems like a monumental waste of resources.
Comments 12
Reply
I'm consistently amazed at how some of the people at Special Ops rate episodes. On one hand, they'll complain about being underwhelmed or disappointed, but they'll then turn around and give it a 9. That's not disappointed, ya know?
For a season finale I was expecting much more.
And for something as hyped as it was? Gah.
He finally get's the credit he deserves and they really have to stop that stupid and childish portrayal of him.
Please. He'll be back to being written as the village idiot by 8x03.
The scenes between Tony and Ziva were brilliant.
Totally agreed. Unlike earlier this season when he was making the borderline xenophobic comments about her becoming a citizen, you really got the feeling that he was joking and teasing her. They were excellent together.
It's really more than sad that Tony had the assignment in Mexico and couldn't be there.
It's isn't sad to me; it's stupid. It was implied that Vance sent him there to murder ( ... )
Reply
The kind of relationship we saw in this episode. The get along well, teasing and smiling and standing close to each other and not being at each other's throat all the time or making stupid comments. I think that they share a deep friendship now again.
What I didn't understand was why Gibbs didn't show up later at Ziva's ceremony.
Because he's a jackass.
Couldn't have found a better word to describe him :-)
I'm consistently amazed at how some of the people at Special Ops rate episodes. On one hand, they'll complain about being underwhelmed or disappointed, but they'll then turn around and give it a 9. That's not disappointed, ya know?
They are not the only ones that have a weird sense rating an episode or seeing things. People on the official yahoo-group pretty much write the same as people on Special-Ops.
But judging from the official ratings for the show, this episode was almost a disaster, at least I think so when "The Biggest Loser" gets better ratings than this episode.
Reply
I still halfway expect next season to end up being the final season if ratings continue to sink right alongside show quality. And of course, a certain segment of the fandom will try to blame Cote/Ziva for being the reason NCIS started to suck.
How long do you think it'll take for them to kick Shane Brennan to the curb with how rapidly ratings have fallen from the high point this season?
Reply
Reply
I mean fuck, it's apparently a huge deal to people that Ziva was able to become a citizen and apparently it's "offensive". But Gibbs' crossing borders (and I'm assuming illegally, cause wouldn't Vance and someone be able to track his movements if it were legal.) Not to mention Vance's 'wink-wink-nudge-nudge' deal. I'm sure directors of federal agencies do this all the time. Not like it's srs bsns.
Reply
Sort of like there is zero chance that Gibbs' team would have been allowed to investigate his former mother-in-law? It's one of those moments of utter ridiculousness that we're supposed to accept in the name of "drama."
As I said after "Mother's Day," NCIS officially jumped the shark this season and barring something ... miraculous, I don't see how they can recover, not with utter mediocrity like this airing. Pity, though. After "Patriot Down" (which kicked all sorts of ass), I foolishly let my hopes get up...
Reply
Excellent point. As a straight guy, my very first reaction to seeing her was "nice ass," but beyond that, I just couldn't take her seriously.
I SINCERELY hope they don't make Ziva act like a turd towards Tony for missing it.
Oh, they will. I just know it. Since they've reached that point where it ceases making since that Tony/Ziva haven't fallen into bed together, they need something to maintain the holding pattern for a while longer.
More so in the 'she's gotten boring' way.
Yeah, she's kind of turned into the Token Girl on the team. Most of the time, it's like they just can't figure out how to use her which is why I really liked the Tony/Ziva partnership in this episode. They really showed that the two of them really don't need Gibbs or McGee to be a kick ass investigative team (I'm reminded of a fic I read a while back where Tony was joking about them doing a Hart to ( ... )
Reply
The Tony/Ziva interaction was so my favorite thing about this episode. They were both so competent! Comfortable around each other! Working together effectively! They had each other's backs and they knew it! Cripes, why can't they act like this in every episode? Oh yeah, because then I'd die from happiness.
The thing that probably bothered me the most was the implication that Vance sent Tony to Mexico ... on an assassination mission.
Yeah, that bothered me a lot too. Especially that he sent Tony to Mexico without backup. (And that he made him miss Ziva's citizenship ceremony, which was surprisingly poignant and beautiful. ((The ceremony, I mean, not Tony's missing it.)) I could kill you for that, Vance.) I almost believe it's not an assassination mission, just for that reason. When Tony bumped into Mike, didn't ( ... )
Reply
Because the showrunners have a distorted view of what made Tony/Ziva fun to watch.
I almost believe it's not an assassination mission, just for that reason. When Tony bumped into Mike, didn't he say he was there to "observe and report," or something like that?
Yeah, he did, but there is no logic whatsoever to sending Tony to Mexico to tail a guy who knows full well what DiNozzo looks like. Send someone from a different office, like Callen from LA.
As to the 'observe and report' thing, the earlier scene between Gibbs and Vance seemed to imply (or rather, I inferred) that, because Gibbs said nothing, Vance was going to take steps to sanction Alejandro. Even with Franks, I doubt Tony would come out and say "I'm here to kill that SOB over there," so sending one of the agency's top senior field agents to follow a guy seems like a monumental waste of resources.
Reply
Leave a comment