I'm kind of mad at Sam right now. Making Dean promise that while drunka nd holding him to the promise. I get Sam has his angst but I guess I;m just worried about all the pressure on Dean's broad sexy shoulders.... um oops lost train thought there for a moment.
I'm mad at Sam.
But I loved this episode. Great funny, great stuff with the two sisters and the end was really kind of sweet with them jumping rope. But dolls are creepy and that girl from the 4400 that played Maggie is good at creepy too!
I'm definitely having to think more about Sam adding to Dean's burden. I'm also wondering if Sam truly could have freed Dean from John's request for the same promise, too. I want to know more about the evil that Sam fears he might do -- the monster he fears he might become. I've been struggling with this all season. (I'll find my early griping on it and link to it, I think.) Previously, it was in the way that Sam was all "KILL ANDY! ALL OF US PSY!KIDS ARE EVIL!"
Yeah it's weird. If anything the first half of the season was showing Dean closer to that edge of going evil, being like Gordon which isn't really on the good side even if he kills the monsters kind of thing -- and Sam is really on the road of doing good at all costs this year.
Which I think may be the point, Sam's fighting something he's feeling so hard that he's not even showing it? I don't know. It just seems like such a far road for Sam I'm not sure why he's so afraid of it -- unless he's having dreams/thoughts we haven't been privy too but I don't see why we wouldn't be shown them?
It's a tiny little quibble though because really this show just makes me happy, happy, happy!
Well, I like the weird, shadowy place they've respectively put the guys. This is a season about teetering on the edge of becoming monsters: Dean in the most human sense and Sam, the most supernatural.
I've linked to my earlier entries where I first started trying to figure out why Sam's response just isn't quite doing it for me. I'm still missing a piece that sells me on why asking Dean to do this is as necessary as it is horrible. I mean, obviously, both Sam and John think it is. Which, like, could be the yellow-eyed demon's Ultimate Plan.
It was the way Maggie loomed over Rose, once we got the confirmation that she was Rose's sister, that confirmed the Sam/Maggie and Dean/Rose parallels for me. The way Rose went so willingly, not just to save Tyler but to be with her sister -- that was pure Dean.
Oh, man. The parallels between Maggie & Rose and Sam & Dean! Fucking FANTISTIC. Considering that Dean is pretty much guaranteed to kill himself if he kills Sam, Dean is the Rose to Sam's Maggie. And just look at Maggie: lost, young, selfish, scared, lonely. She bound Rose to her just as much as Sam has Dean bound to him. *flails*
I noted in my rambling commentary below both the cool perspective shot of Maggie looming over Rose, as well as Sam calling Dean short. (Heee.) That's some fantastically subtle work there -- and I do believe it was deliberate -- in reinforcing the creepy parallels between these stories.DUDE. So, like, I got that stuff, but I don't think I really *GOT* it the way you did, so thank you for articulating that all intelligently and stuff. I think they sort of did the same thing in "Bloodlust," but this is cooler, because of the perspective shots and the more obvious nature of the Sam/Dean-Rose/Maggie stuff. At the same time, though, Maggie was so *clearly* the dependent one, while I see that as changing between
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Oh, Dean is very much needing Sam so much more right now. Without John, Sam is the only family Dean has and Dean has never been shy about how much Family Matters. Sam, OTOH, has demonstrated that he can love his brother just as much but still go away and be just fine. I don't think he realizes that Dean doesn't have that.
I'm really still mulling this. I may have to rewatch the whole season now. Curse the luck! :D
i was apparently too creeped out to catch all the sibling parallels. i knew they were there, i just couldn't figure out where. and there was waaaay too much shining, which is hands down the scariest movie i have ever seen or hopefully ever will see. which might explain why this episode wigged me out so bad.... eeeeep.
i don't think sam thought about what he was asking dean. he was plastered, for one (and i'm not sure i buy him as the kind of guy who'd try to drown his angst in tequila, but i don't have any hard fact as to why it rubbed me the wrong way, just that it did), and i don't think he realizes even sober how very important his life is to dean, and he doesn't know - or hasn't given any sign that he knows - that it will literally kill dean to have to put him down. dean can't survive having to do that. it's not just living without sam, it's being the agent of sam's death. he can't carry that. and if sam figured that out, he wouldn't have asked.
yeah, but Sam was there with Dean in "Croatoan" -- he knows how totally and completely Dean was there, too. He knows Dean is ready to die. What he doesn't know is that Dean is ready to die pretty much only if Sam dies.
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I bet we catch all sorts of other King references in repeated viewings.
...I mean. If we were that sort of obsessive fangirl, anyway. *cough*
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That hug! Oh! That look Dean gave Sam!
Uh, whoa. Sam remembers. Oh, Dean. Oh, Sam. *flails*
I love how this particular ghost story happened to frame the Winchesters' story. Well done.
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I'm mad at Sam.
But I loved this episode. Great funny, great stuff with the two sisters and the end was really kind of sweet with them jumping rope. But dolls are creepy and that girl from the 4400 that played Maggie is good at creepy too!
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I just gotta think. ...I sense a meta comin' on.
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Which I think may be the point, Sam's fighting something he's feeling so hard that he's not even showing it? I don't know. It just seems like such a far road for Sam I'm not sure why he's so afraid of it -- unless he's having dreams/thoughts we haven't been privy too but I don't see why we wouldn't be shown them?
It's a tiny little quibble though because really this show just makes me happy, happy, happy!
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I've linked to my earlier entries where I first started trying to figure out why Sam's response just isn't quite doing it for me. I'm still missing a piece that sells me on why asking Dean to do this is as necessary as it is horrible. I mean, obviously, both Sam and John think it is. Which, like, could be the yellow-eyed demon's Ultimate Plan.
I'm just...thinking.
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I'm unable to form words at the moment.
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Just. Wow.
Gotta think on this.
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I noted in my rambling commentary below both the cool perspective shot of Maggie looming over Rose, as well as Sam calling Dean short. (Heee.) That's some fantastically subtle work there -- and I do believe it was deliberate -- in reinforcing the creepy parallels between these stories.DUDE. So, like, I got that stuff, but I don't think I really *GOT* it the way you did, so thank you for articulating that all intelligently and stuff. I think they sort of did the same thing in "Bloodlust," but this is cooler, because of the perspective shots and the more obvious nature of the Sam/Dean-Rose/Maggie stuff. At the same time, though, Maggie was so *clearly* the dependent one, while I see that as changing between ( ... )
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I'm really still mulling this. I may have to rewatch the whole season now. Curse the luck! :D
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i don't think sam thought about what he was asking dean. he was plastered, for one (and i'm not sure i buy him as the kind of guy who'd try to drown his angst in tequila, but i don't have any hard fact as to why it rubbed me the wrong way, just that it did), and i don't think he realizes even sober how very important his life is to dean, and he doesn't know - or hasn't given any sign that he knows - that it will literally kill dean to have to put him down. dean can't survive having to do that. it's not just living without sam, it's being the agent of sam's death. he can't carry that. and if sam figured that out, he wouldn't have asked.
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