I think that was everything that would upset you; there was an anonymous SPN meme that turned into a hate meme, as they do, but I don't think that's one of your buttons. Various Panic photos and Tweets and whatnot, but nothing earth-shaking or revelatory.
Something fannish and awesome needs to happen, is all I'm saying. SOON.
Not one of my buttons, but I'm not sad I missed it.
I think Panic has been plenty earth-shaking enough for one week. /o\
Harry Potter is tomorrow! I know that's not your thing and it's only kind of mine, but maybe it will at least provide a good distraction? It will likely make people happy! That will be good! But yes, something otherwise fannishly awesome really, REALLY needs to happen soon.
The darkness has to really feel completely narratively necessary, and I didn't feel that here. It felt like a lot of the last part was done for shock value and emotional manipulation. Exactly! It was the fifth episode that really undid me, with the killing of children and taking away of children. It was like watching torture!porn. :| :|
STEFANIE PANIC AT THE DISCO IS A TRAGEDY DO NOT SUGGEST OTHERWISE.
Torchwood, though, just. Yeah. I mean, you have all the really hard, disturbing stuff with the kids, you have a redemption narrative that sort of seems to be concluding that there isn't any after all...and then you have the queer stuff, which honestly bothers me too.
I KNOW that TW is a show with queer characters that's not about the being queer. That's the point of TW and one of the best things about it, so it's great that they're just treated matter-of-factly. Probably more than on any other show, the sexuality of the characters is incidental. HOWEVER, who survives? (Jack does, but only because his tragedy is that he can't die, and he's irreparably broken). Rocks fall, everyone dies except the happy, heteronormative couple. And it's not that I don't love Gwen and Rhys because I do, but just. Et tu, RTD?
I would so, so read that. Martha! I am SO GLAD NOW that she didn't end up on TW.
DOOD. i wasn't spoiled for any of it. and i'm just glad i watched with friends cos if i had seen any of it by myself, i think i would be catatonic now.
we watched all of it in one sitting last night and am still processing, and i'm really shaky this morning. the children, the CHILDREN being stolen away from their parents, was almost unbearable to watch for me, having a school age child myself...
ugh, i need to lie in a room with kittens and baby unicorns (do they have a name?) until the gloom cloud passes...
There was no celebration here. There was the very worst of humanity
I think that's what really got me about it. There was absolutely nothing redemptive there. I mean, I know they saved the 10% so maybe it can be argued that *that* was, but it didn't feel like it, since they destroyed pretty much everything the audience cared about. I don't know, I just have no interest in anything that unrelentingly bleak. And yeah, I didn't *buy* it. It felt like bleak for the sake of bleak and like it was mostly about shock value. Tragedy should feel narratively necessary. This didn't. I know they have a fourth season coming and I do wonder how they're going to come back from this. I might watch it, but I'm not about to let myself get emotionally invested in the characters again.
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It was a *very* rough week on the Internet last week, all over. /o\
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Oh, man. Is there anything else I should know about before I try to catch up on my flist? Forewarned is forearmed!
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Something fannish and awesome needs to happen, is all I'm saying. SOON.
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I think Panic has been plenty earth-shaking enough for one week. /o\
Harry Potter is tomorrow! I know that's not your thing and it's only kind of mine, but maybe it will at least provide a good distraction? It will likely make people happy! That will be good! But yes, something otherwise fannishly awesome really, REALLY needs to happen soon.
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Exactly! It was the fifth episode that really undid me, with the killing of children and taking away of children. It was like watching torture!porn. :| :|
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That comparison hadn't occurred to me, but yeah. It really did feel a lot like that.
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I have to admit, I was not personally touched by Panic at the Disco, though of course I mourn for the fandom. Torchwood, though.
I, um, I might have to write some sort of grace-in-darkness-trying-to-reform-society fic involving Martha.
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Torchwood, though, just. Yeah. I mean, you have all the really hard, disturbing stuff with the kids, you have a redemption narrative that sort of seems to be concluding that there isn't any after all...and then you have the queer stuff, which honestly bothers me too.
I KNOW that TW is a show with queer characters that's not about the being queer. That's the point of TW and one of the best things about it, so it's great that they're just treated matter-of-factly. Probably more than on any other show, the sexuality of the characters is incidental. HOWEVER, who survives? (Jack does, but only because his tragedy is that he can't die, and he's irreparably broken). Rocks fall, everyone dies except the happy, heteronormative couple. And it's not that I don't love Gwen and Rhys because I do, but just. Et tu, RTD?
I would so, so read that. Martha! I am SO GLAD NOW that she didn't end up on TW.
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we watched all of it in one sitting last night and am still processing, and i'm really shaky this morning. the children, the CHILDREN being stolen away from their parents, was almost unbearable to watch for me, having a school age child myself...
ugh, i need to lie in a room with kittens and baby unicorns (do they have a name?) until the gloom cloud passes...
glad you had a good weekend!
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I watched the first two episodes as they aired, and then the last three in a chunk by myself, and then I really didn't sleep much the night after.
Find cute and/or shiny things today is probably a good call.
Thanks!
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I think that's what really got me about it. There was absolutely nothing redemptive there. I mean, I know they saved the 10% so maybe it can be argued that *that* was, but it didn't feel like it, since they destroyed pretty much everything the audience cared about. I don't know, I just have no interest in anything that unrelentingly bleak. And yeah, I didn't *buy* it. It felt like bleak for the sake of bleak and like it was mostly about shock value. Tragedy should feel narratively necessary. This didn't. I know they have a fourth season coming and I do wonder how they're going to come back from this. I might watch it, but I'm not about to let myself get emotionally invested in the characters again.
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