Using abortion to achieve a specific gender birth

May 13, 2009 19:36

Utterly disgusting.
The board has now responded that such requests and thus abortions can not be refused and that it is not possible to deny a woman an abortion up to the 18th week of pregnancy, even if the foetus's gender is the basis for the request.

"Designer children" can't be far behind.

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anolinde May 14 2009, 00:42:44 UTC
Not that I really agree with terminating a pregnancy because you don't like the fetus's gender, but denying abortions should be illegal anyway...

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julietvalcouer June 1 2009, 22:34:08 UTC
If you punish them the right way at an early age, they'll learn to not step out of line. My parents never had to hit me to punish me--just took away all my toys and TV in kindergarten and I got them back one at a time when I didn't get notes from the teacher, and then once in grade school no TV or desserts for a month. Whereas, don't fuck up, get everything, pretty much, you want. (Well, except large parrots, indoor cats, or any rodents or reptiles. I did get the ponies.) For a teenager, that meant don't run with the wrong crowd, don't fuck around, get to stay out til 1am at the community theater cast party, get to take the car to Dearborn with friends all day, etc ( ... )

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baka_neko314 June 2 2009, 17:14:35 UTC
See, punish means different things to different people. I figured you mean t the hitting sort, which I'm not so keen on. The taking away of privileges I'm all for, even if my parents were taking things away from me that I paid money on, that they weren't helping me pay for in any way because of something at school that they knew was an issue. So ya know, sour taste in my mouth when it comes to restricting me from using my own car that I pay for. That sort of shit.

Credit cards?I don't understand parents who let their kids run off with a credit card of theirs. Also, what's with the hate towards teen boys?

Oh, trust me. I've already put my foot down with my husband about the birth control issue. I want them to be on it in some form, but I don't want to force it on them nor do I want to screw up their body chemistry.

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julietvalcouer June 2 2009, 17:23:44 UTC
Hitting you generally only need to do once, and they get the point, and if they're already teens, the horse is long out of the barn on that one ( ... )

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baka_neko314 June 2 2009, 17:38:33 UTC
I had my own car when I was seventeen, that I was paying for with the money I was making at my job. Granted, the job pickings were slim in 2002 so I ended up working in the next town over about 8 miles away. I borrowed my parent's car to get around (which I hated) so I went out of my way to get my own car ( ... )

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julietvalcouer June 2 2009, 20:05:03 UTC
I might date someone who has less money than me, but never seriously. Long-term, one has to think about something other than warm fuzzy feelings. The romance will eventually fizzle out, but you still need to have a roof over your head and you need something else to talk about. So intelligent (not necessarily "educated" as the degree doesn't always tell you much) and well off. Also ideally not someone who likes children as I would then not be the girl for him ( ... )

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baka_neko314 June 3 2009, 06:46:32 UTC
If I were to date someone with less money than me, then they wouldn't have a job. But that's only because my job is only part time because of school. Both of the men I'm with want children and I'm ok with that... in like 4 years. And they understand this ( ... )

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julietvalcouer June 3 2009, 13:41:24 UTC
Honestly, the most together of my friends from high school (well, she went to a different school but I'd known her for years) got pregnant and dropped out. But she married the guy, and they have three kids and a house now, so really it worked out better for her than most of the rest of us ( ... )

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baka_neko314 June 3 2009, 16:04:57 UTC
Of the few I remember, the most together of my friends are either married without children, just finishing college or have finished college and are starting careers. I can think of a few who got pregnant and have a husband now with the house and all that, but that was less than the norm when I hear about some of my friends who got pregnant. Makes me happy I never went down that road. I'm too selfish for kids right now and I don't get anyone under 24 who does have kids. Hell if you do, good for you, I just don't get it. I'd rather be out enjoying myself ( ... )

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psychomatt May 15 2009, 03:16:52 UTC
Again, you're ignoring the issue of when the baby's rights matter.

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anolinde May 15 2009, 04:03:45 UTC
I don't consider a clump of cells smaller than my fist to have more rights than me, sorry.

Note: Totally different issue when it's much later in the pregnancy and the fetus can actually survive outside of the body--but then again, who would be stupid enough to have an abortion at that point, excepting a medical emergency?

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psychomatt May 15 2009, 22:41:27 UTC
I'm not saying (or implying) they have more rights than you. I'm talking equal rights.

As for the late term: too damned many want late-term abortions to be legal, too.

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baka_neko314 May 31 2009, 08:29:10 UTC
o.o I don't (unless it harm's the mother's life). And I'm ok with abortion (unless its me getting one).

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