Using abortion to achieve a specific gender birth

May 13, 2009 19:36

Utterly disgusting.
The board has now responded that such requests and thus abortions can not be refused and that it is not possible to deny a woman an abortion up to the 18th week of pregnancy, even if the foetus's gender is the basis for the request.

"Designer children" can't be far behind.

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baka_neko314 June 2 2009, 17:38:33 UTC
I had my own car when I was seventeen, that I was paying for with the money I was making at my job. Granted, the job pickings were slim in 2002 so I ended up working in the next town over about 8 miles away. I borrowed my parent's car to get around (which I hated) so I went out of my way to get my own car.

I never had a card in my name on my parentals credit cards. Granted, I've used my mother's card once and even though I paid her back for the purchase when I said I would, she refused to ever let me use it again. This especially sucked when I wanted to go visit my now-husband at his place in Kentucky, as I'm a poor college student. Luckily a friend of mine was generous and let me use her card, and I paid her on time like my mother would have been so I don't get my mom's reluctance. On top of that, my parents have filed for bankruptcy twice. The first time I don't remember the reason. The second time was for the most BS reason ever: My brother got sick and was hospitalized for two weeks at two different hospitals. My parents were both on unemployment and didn't have health insurance. The hospital aide committee said they made too much money on unemployment to qualify for further aide. So they filed for bankruptcy. Their credit hasn't fully recovered, and really I've done fine building my own credit, paying for school myself (even if their income is fucking up my chances at grants), paying for a car, all that.

I had several male friends in high school that I'm still friends with now. I think I dated a grand total of two guys and a girl my entire high school years and I found that the girl was the worst of all of them for me, based on manipulation, how well she treated me and overall bitchiness. And I'm not sure if I agree with the concept of older men having more money, since money never factored in very much in any of my relationships, previous or otherwise. granted yes, I'm happy my husband can pay bills, but I also hung out with the financially responsible teens when I was in HS. Almost all of us had jobs. So I dunno.

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julietvalcouer June 2 2009, 20:05:03 UTC
I might date someone who has less money than me, but never seriously. Long-term, one has to think about something other than warm fuzzy feelings. The romance will eventually fizzle out, but you still need to have a roof over your head and you need something else to talk about. So intelligent (not necessarily "educated" as the degree doesn't always tell you much) and well off. Also ideally not someone who likes children as I would then not be the girl for him.

I never had a job until after grad school. I wouldn't have had time, especially with the horse and theater and cramming every extra-curricular I could in for the college resume (it worked, I got into easily the most selective school of anyone in my class.) Then in college, most people did work study at most (there aren't really jobs outside the school where I went, the town's too small and isolated) because we were too busy academically (a lot of people there crack up. It's a bit high pressure.) Then there's grad school. Internships basically ARE your job.

I don't think I've spoken to anyone from high school in years, but then I live nine hundred miles away and started by going to college four states away. A few of them friended me on Facebook, though oddly enough most aren't people I spoke with much--they dont' seem to be on facebook. Actually a couple don't even come up on google, and that's really falling off the face of the earth.

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baka_neko314 June 3 2009, 06:46:32 UTC
If I were to date someone with less money than me, then they wouldn't have a job. But that's only because my job is only part time because of school. Both of the men I'm with want children and I'm ok with that... in like 4 years. And they understand this.

I'm finishing up my fourth year of my bachelor degree at the moment. I chose to retake some classes for better grades on my transcript so its causing me to be a tad behind in graduating this year, like I should be. I'm not bothered by this though. I have my MAT program starting up next summer that will go for a year, so whee. As far as not having a job until after Grad school, that's not a possibility since I HAD to have a job to pay for my own expenses when I was a teen. My parents tended to have money problems, and at one point, both of them had lost their jobs. So in order for me to have a car to get around and the other things I needed for school, like an internet connection and money to pay for field trips and extra class supplies, I needed a job to pay for that. I didn't have much of anything handed to me. I think my parents are still kicking themselves for making me TOO independent as I've proven I haven't needed them for much of anything since I was about 18.

I didn't move very far to go to college. I only live an hour away from my parents house. This is nice because its far enough away that they can't drop in on me, my husband and our partner without knowing in advance, but it also means family gatherings are easier since we aren't so far off. Some days I stop and think about how I miss high school. Then I look at some of my friends and what they've done with themselves since high school (most of them are or have been pregnant at least once) and I'm not to wistful. I just miss some of the social networking.

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julietvalcouer June 3 2009, 13:41:24 UTC
Honestly, the most together of my friends from high school (well, she went to a different school but I'd known her for years) got pregnant and dropped out. But she married the guy, and they have three kids and a house now, so really it worked out better for her than most of the rest of us.

I just never needed a job. In theory even now I could go for a bit if I felt like selling Chevron off, but I'd prefer to only do that if I have to for a down payment on a house. I thought about dumping some to get a down payment on a truck, or just the whole purchase price of one, but the taxes involved would be awful so I'll wait until I get the hell out of MA! (Never move here. I have four jobs, make less than $30k/year, get a federal refund and had to pay the state $600 in taxes. They only help you out if you're an unwed mother and preferably here illegally. If you work and haven't done something stupid, you're paying for everyone else.)

My backup school was an hour from home, but I fell in love with my university when I went for an interview. And I don't think I'd have done well at a school with lectures of two hundred people--that was half my freshman class at my school.

And hey, my friend was a fifth-year senior because she bombed organic the first time and she went to med school. Sometimes you take longer to graduate. (And some of us keep meaning to go back because we can't make up our minds...)

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baka_neko314 June 3 2009, 16:04:57 UTC
Of the few I remember, the most together of my friends are either married without children, just finishing college or have finished college and are starting careers. I can think of a few who got pregnant and have a husband now with the house and all that, but that was less than the norm when I hear about some of my friends who got pregnant. Makes me happy I never went down that road. I'm too selfish for kids right now and I don't get anyone under 24 who does have kids. Hell if you do, good for you, I just don't get it. I'd rather be out enjoying myself.

You're lucky to have not needed a job ^_^ Also, as far as never moving to MA, I hadn't planned on it. I like Oregon way too much, even if my husband still comments that my state is broken since it rains, hails, is sunny, (insert weather pattern here) all in the course of 10 minutes. Or when it rains, without a cloud in the sky while the sun is beaming down. :) It amuses me that it confuses him so.

I don't think I really had a back up school. I just know that I wanted a way to continue not living with my parents if I didn't have to. I had moved out for a year before returning home to go to college and I moved back out again at the beginning of my third year, mostly because I got tired of my mother trying to push curfews on me in the middle of the summer when I was 19, paying all my bills and not doing anything to irk her. My dad stared at her and stated that I wouldn't have a curfew, as that was silly. Thankfully, Dad won out on that one and I continued to not have a curfew. I think I would have started looking for an apartment and a roommate at that very second if he had backed her up.

The part of being a fifth-year senior doesn't bother me at all. I'm just pleased I can have a few terms of 12 credits instead of the 16 and 17 credit loads I've been doing since my freshman year.

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