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samincittagazze April 25 2012, 20:45:44 UTC
Okay, I've read this through 3 or 4 times and I think I understand what you mean. So, essentially, fiction cannot reflect the society it comes from as a whole because it is too small a fragment of that society? And that it's not actually a reflection at all, more a, idk, a load of questions about it? So Gordon's story doesn't necessarily tell us that society is racist, it asks us what racism is, how does it work it the context of the show, and then in the context of this specific fandom, and then, perhaps, in the context of the society oit is born from as a whole?

Is that right? Yeah, actually, I'm not sure I do get it! I shall mull it over some more. Definitely interesting though: I've always been a 'find the hidden meaning' person, so you've spun my head a little here.

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reading_is_in April 26 2012, 06:09:58 UTC
Good god, if you're not in cultural studies I am SERIOUSLY impressed that you read that ( ... )

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samincittagazze April 28 2012, 21:43:27 UTC
lol. I did English Lit and Women's Studies at uni, so I guess Cultural Studies kind of aligns with that, but what very little I did know I've completely forgotten in the 4 years since Graduating. It's something I find really interesting though.

I guess it's coming from the Eng Lit background that's making me struggle with this concept, because my whole brain is wired to look for the hidden meaning in EVERYTHING.

I think I'm struggling to understand where discourse ends and 'meaning' begins. So, in the example you've given, Gordon's race isn't mentioned in the show because liberal discourse says OMGCOLOURDON'TTOUCH. Isn't that meaning? That is the show reflecting real life, in a way, isn't it? I think I'm still confusing the terms somewhat. And I'm now also using you as my personal teacher/lecturer, so apologies for that? It is really fascinating to me though.

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reading_is_in April 29 2012, 07:23:12 UTC
Heh heh, no probs. Academia may be the only thing I'm good at ( ... )

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