The thing is though, it comes down to proof or the absence of such.
Consider, if you will, the basic absurdity that an astral body - so far away from you as to have absolutely zero magnetic, thermodynamic, or photonic influence on your very existence...
and yet Astrology claims that it does.
It's different to not believing in snowfall, especially considering the vast number of africans who have actually seen snow. {it's always either they haven't seen snow or there are lions wandering the streets}
Science requires that you place belief in numbers, and rules that are measurable in science' own terms -
so you have to believe in it, or it's just another hokey religion.
Science tells us that most religious beliefs are not currently provable, by it's own calculations - science has yet to discover a way to measure these things.
Religions usually tell us that Scientists are heretics and must be incinerated at the nearest stake.
He doesn't totally discount the possibility that it may have some merit.
Consider, if you will, the basic absurdity that an astral body - so far away from you as to have absolutely zero magnetic, thermodynamic, or photonic influence on your very existence...
Sure, most planets are ridiculously far away, although the more *core* ones to astrology and natal charts such as the Sun and the Moon have clear physical influences on the earth and our lives. It's not meant to be taken literally I don't think. It is primarily a system of symbols and for me has validity as such.
One of the primary arguements against the tarot is how a card out of 78 picked at random could possibly have any relevance whatsoever. I admit that I started out as a huge sceptic and while I won't accept every reader/astrologer unquestioningly I have seen it work. Symbols are a powerful and ancient language that defy easy rules but if they were irrelevant than a lot of psychology and particularly psychoanalysis would be in deep trouble.
It's different to not believing in snowfall, especially considering the vast number of africans who
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Sure, most planets are ridiculously far away, although the more *core* ones to astrology and natal charts such as the Sun and the Moon have clear physical influences on the earth and our lives. It's not meant to be taken literally I don't think. It is primarily a system of symbols and for me has validity as such.
That's a similar argument to that used to justify all the various contradictions of the bible though....
The Sun, being a star, also throws up the quandary of - stars vs planets divided by spatial influence.
All life comes from the sun, or so science tells us:- the difference comes when science tries to prove itself, whereas other religions/beliefs tend not to...
Symbols are a powerful and ancient language that defy easy rules but if they were irrelevant than a lot of psychology and particularly psychoanalysis would be in deep trouble. Agreed
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The Sun, being a star, also throws up the quandary of - stars vs planets divided by spatial influence.
I know, astrology is weird because it is subjective and it starts out with the same principles as astronomy but then completely throws them off and turns them on their head. Eg. the constellations astronomically are of different sizes but for the purposes of astrology and having a workable symbol system they are neatly divided into occupying a space of 30 degrees each.
and the sun and moon are treated as planets in the chart, and I use the word for the sake of convenience because it is the standard reference. as are other words, like rulerships, even though that is not strictly accurate either.
If the foundation is flawed the building is unlikely to be weather proof.I agree totally. But I think it depends on what you see as the foundation. In astrology, I see the foundation as a symbol system and that's how I treat it rather than basing it in astronomical relevance. Just as dreams may look like the representations of the real
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hehhehe yeah, I'm not thrilled with the wording of it but I find it so interesting to think about, even if it is in vague terms of what characteristics do you see as dominant in your personality, what face you present to the world.
do you know anything at all about your moon or your rising sign?
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it comes down to proof or the absence of such.
Consider, if you will, the basic absurdity that an astral body - so far away from you as to have absolutely zero magnetic, thermodynamic,
or photonic influence on your very existence...
and yet Astrology claims that it does.
It's different to not believing in snowfall, especially considering the vast number of africans who have actually seen snow.
{it's always either they haven't seen snow or there are lions wandering the streets}
Science requires that you place belief in numbers,
and rules that are measurable in science' own terms -
so you have to believe in it, or it's just another hokey religion.
Science tells us that most religious beliefs are not currently provable,
by it's own calculations - science has yet to discover a way to measure these things.
Religions usually tell us that Scientists are heretics and must be incinerated at the nearest stake.
He doesn't totally discount the possibility that it may have some merit.
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or photonic influence on your very existence...
Sure, most planets are ridiculously far away, although the more *core* ones to astrology and natal charts such as the Sun and the Moon have clear physical influences on the earth and our lives. It's not meant to be taken literally I don't think. It is primarily a system of symbols and for me has validity as such.
One of the primary arguements against the tarot is how a card out of 78 picked at random could possibly have any relevance whatsoever. I admit that I started out as a huge sceptic and while I won't accept every reader/astrologer unquestioningly I have seen it work. Symbols are a powerful and ancient language that defy easy rules but if they were irrelevant than a lot of psychology and particularly psychoanalysis would be in deep trouble.
It's different to not believing in snowfall, especially considering the vast number of africans who ( ... )
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That's a similar argument to that used to justify all the various contradictions of the bible though....
The Sun, being a star, also throws up the quandary of - stars vs planets divided by spatial influence.
All life comes from the sun, or so science tells us:-
the difference comes when science tries to prove itself,
whereas other religions/beliefs tend not to...
Symbols are a powerful and ancient language that defy easy rules but if they were irrelevant than a lot of psychology and particularly psychoanalysis would be in deep trouble.
Agreed ( ... )
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I know, astrology is weird because it is subjective and it starts out with the same principles as astronomy but then completely throws them off and turns them on their head. Eg. the constellations astronomically are of different sizes but for the purposes of astrology and having a workable symbol system they are neatly divided into occupying a space of 30 degrees each.
and the sun and moon are treated as planets in the chart, and I use the word for the sake of convenience because it is the standard reference. as are other words, like rulerships, even though that is not strictly accurate either.
If the foundation is flawed the building is unlikely to be weather proof.I agree totally. But I think it depends on what you see as the foundation. In astrology, I see the foundation as a symbol system and that's how I treat it rather than basing it in astronomical relevance. Just as dreams may look like the representations of the real ( ... )
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So it says. Hmm. Obviously, they lied on my birth cert then :o)
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I certainly am a Leo, so the test is not right :)
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do you know anything at all about your moon or your rising sign?
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my sun sign is pisces, but my moon and rising signs are both gemini. interesting!
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The weird thing was that I was born early. If I'd stayed in the womb the whole nine months, I'd have popped out in September. Go figure.
I don't know anything about rising signs or anything like that. But this was a kick.
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glad you had fun with the test :)
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