Disjointed ramblings on the writing of same-sex pairings in fanfic, yeah, it's late, I'm too tired t

[rahirah]

So there was a post linked in the Herald recently about whether Spike's written too "girly" in fanfic, specifically in slash fanfic.

Comments

[velvetwhip]

I shun meta and so did not read the post which inspired this, but your points seem well-taken to me.

Gabrielle

[rahirah]

My points are small, but I'm fond of them :D

[varina8]

Amen. Ans how a couple's dynamic works outside of sex may have very little do with what happens when the lights go down (metaphorically-speaking).

[rahirah]

Yep...

[norwie2010]

Uhm, yes. (Damn you, heterosexual stereotypes!)

[rahirah]

:D

[slaymesoftly]

Since I don't read all that much slash (m/m or f/f) in fanfic, and can pretty much pick and choose what I will read, I'd never given this any thought. If I don't liking a characterization, I just click out of the story. However, having read a ton of non-fanfic m/m slash over the past couple of years, I now know way more about those relationships than I'd ever thought I would. And yes, in most/many cases, it is not necessary for "somebody to be the girl". Nor for the sex to reflect that sort of relationship. Lots of ways to participate and people in love often take turns doing what will make their partner feel good at that particular time

[ms_scarletibis]

Manips...they creep me out in general, and I tend to stay away from them altogether ;)

[rahirah]

I have some sympathy for manip makers, in that it's freaking hard to find body parts that match up correctly, and are all lit the same way, and might conceivably come frome one human being. Which is why I make very few manips. *g*

[slaymesoftly]

I would totally swear I replied to this comment hours ago, but I don't see it *sigh* Too tired to try to recreate it. I think I just said I admire people who can do manips well, but they aren't often my cup of tea. Or something like that. And that I rarely comment on how I feel about manips because there are so many manippers on my flist and I don't want them to hate me. :)

[lynnenne]

Yeah, I had a similar issue with the assumptions in that post. The notion that Spike becomes "girly" simply by batting his eyelashes at someone didn't sit well with me. First off, that's a mannerism that is used by people of all genders to flirt with someone / signal sexual interest. And secondly, a lot of the discussion seemed to equate "girly" with "weakness" - which, for an audience of Buffyverse fans, seemed kind of ironic.

Plus, Spike totally batted his eyelashes at Buffy. And Dru. And Lydia Chalmers. And... pretty much everyone.

[rahirah]

Spike is an equal opportunity batter. *g*