slow down my love; you're confusing me.

[quigonejinn]

Comments

[neotoma]

I do love it when people inject actual science fiction into Star Wars -- the idea that there are several 'human' species that look a lot alike, but are anatomically and psysiologically different is rarely explored (though Marag's "Growth" is hilarious in exploring the possible difference between social adulthood and physical adulthood).

Also, I'm amused that Qui-Gon is basically an Earth human, and Obi-Wan is not.

[quigonejinn]

Ahahah. Yeah? God, I must've fucked up the anatomy something fierce because Obi-Wan was supposed to be Earth human and Qui-Gon was supposed to be the non-human. I like your way better, though -- there's something cool about having a fic from the POV of a stealth-alien like that.

And God. Ever since I started reading SWfic, I've been WONDERING why everybody assumes that Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan are the same damn species. Sure, I've seen a couple of mpregs and one fic where they riffed on the hyphenation thing, but really, people. This is the Old Republic, after all. Tens of thousands of systems! Thousands of species!

[neotoma]

I think it was the heart position that made me assume that you meant for Qui-Gon to be Earth-human. Us Earth humans have hearts that are slightly on the left, which are enclosed in the ribcage yet not really under the sternum, and can be considered 'under' the lungs, depending on whether 'under' is consider dorsal-ventrally or cerebral-caudally.

I've seen a couple of MPREGs too (Bren Antrim's one is FUNNY and gets into the idea that there are more than two possible genders out there) but very few people get into all the possibilities that SF should allow you.

The name hyphenation thing just makes me think that many Jedi are renamed when they joined the Order. Ben (Lars? I still like that idea, even if Lucas has tried to joss it) is given to the Jedi, he's renamed Obi-Wan Kenobi, because that name has meaning to the Jedi. Qui-Gon's birth name would likewise be different; he was probably called Quentin Geraint or something, you know?

<3 the name Geraint. <3.

[quigonejinn]

Care to point me to Antrim's? I looked at her site, but I couldn't pick out which one was hte MPREG one right-off.

And ahah. Christ, see, this is the difference between me having had one human physiology class five years ago and somebody who actually knows their shit because I'd entirely forgotten about the dorsal-ventral arrangement. Good job, Rhod. :D The big giveaway was supposed to be the voicebox structure, but uh. I like the idea of Obi-Wan being the alien better anyways, so. *clears throat, looks around shifty

[a_blue_moon_cat]

*wibbles* Last line caught me by surprise.

Interesting thoughts about the differing humanoid species. :)

[polgarawolf]

Hi! Sorry to bother you with such a late comment on your story (which, by the way, is extremely good, and I think the way the time shifts are incorporated into it actually aide in the build up to the rather tragic ending, since we get an explanation for what probably happened when that blow was given in a slower build up, this way, rather than all at once). But this is, I think, the only SW story I've ever read where Qui-Gon was specifically depicted as near-human with different characteristics in his physical anatomy than is found among human norms (and that probably says something about how many other stories I've missed reading in the fandom), and I'd lost my link to it and had to be repointed to it to find it again. I'm commenting here because I'd like to ask permission to point folks to this story, if anyone ever asks me where the idea came from for my Qui-Gon to be a near-human instead of human. He's not the same variety of near-human as yours is (in fact, I have him originating on a world where the abundance of water has caused

[quigonejinn]

Ahah. No worries about ever leaving me feedback or pointing people to my fic. How could I ever be displeased with those things? Although it's going to take me a while to get to each of your comments if they're all as lovely and involved this.

(I hate to disappoint, but I actually stole the near-human thing from the Star Wars website or something. They list his race as near-human, I think, and I was just like. Hm. That would be something to play with because, really, why in the name of God WOULD Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan be exactly the same species as each other?)

So if you still want to

[quigonejinn]

Er, that last sentence was supposed to be, "So if you still want to, you're welcome to link. XD"

[polgarawolf]

*Grins* Still want to, yes. I'd certainly never come across the idea before anywhere else and darned if I've ever noticed it mentioned anywhere like the SW Wiki (where I double-check most of my facts on folks and planets and all things SW, in case my wee brain has forgotten any details from the movies or books and such) before, either, so as far as I'm concerned, at least, this fic was the first place I ever saw such a notion, though now that you've brought it up, why should they (or Anakin or anyone else for that matter) necessarily be the same species or close enough to the same kind of biological variant of near-human species that it wouldn't make a difference?

[pronker]

Hi, extremely tardy here, but this was an excellent fic with all our preconceptions about Obi and Qui's species thrown out cheerily. Something that makes this even better is the science behind it, center of gravity, etc., yet a giving a large nod to the bipedal norm. Sigh, and a comment mentioned Antrim's mpreg, a genre that I couldn't resist myself. Fine story!