I do love it when people inject actual science fiction into Star Wars -- the idea that there are several 'human' species that look a lot alike, but are anatomically and psysiologically different is rarely explored (though Marag's "Growth" is hilarious in exploring the possible difference between social adulthood and physical adulthood).
Also, I'm amused that Qui-Gon is basically an Earth human, and Obi-Wan is not.
Ahahah. Yeah? God, I must've fucked up the anatomy something fierce because Obi-Wan was supposed to be Earth human and Qui-Gon was supposed to be the non-human. I like your way better, though -- there's something cool about having a fic from the POV of a stealth-alien like that.
And God. Ever since I started reading SWfic, I've been WONDERING why everybody assumes that Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan are the same damn species. Sure, I've seen a couple of mpregs and one fic where they riffed on the hyphenation thing, but really, people. This is the Old Republic, after all. Tens of thousands of systems! Thousands of species!
I think it was the heart position that made me assume that you meant for Qui-Gon to be Earth-human. Us Earth humans have hearts that are slightly on the left, which are enclosed in the ribcage yet not really under the sternum, and can be considered 'under' the lungs, depending on whether 'under' is consider dorsal-ventrally or cerebral-caudally.
I've seen a couple of MPREGs too (Bren Antrim's one is FUNNY and gets into the idea that there are more than two possible genders out there) but very few people get into all the possibilities that SF should allow you.
The name hyphenation thing just makes me think that many Jedi are renamed when they joined the Order. Ben (Lars? I still like that idea, even if Lucas has tried to joss it) is given to the Jedi, he's renamed Obi-Wan Kenobi, because that name has meaning to the Jedi. Qui-Gon's birth name would likewise be different; he was probably called Quentin Geraint or something, you know?
<3 the name Geraint. <3.quigonejinnOctober 12 2005, 19:11:25 UTC
Care to point me to Antrim's? I looked at her site, but I couldn't pick out which one was hte MPREG one right-off.
And ahah. Christ, see, this is the difference between me having had one human physiology class five years ago and somebody who actually knows their shit because I'd entirely forgotten about the dorsal-ventral arrangement. Good job, Rhod. :D The big giveaway was supposed to be the voicebox structure, but uh. I like the idea of Obi-Wan being the alien better anyways, so. *clears throat, looks around shifty
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Re: <3 the name Geraint. <3.neotomaOctober 12 2005, 19:56:14 UTC
It's Family Over Fate, which I love. Partly for the intrasexuality, partly because Anakin can not shut up at all (he's much too honest and guileless, and it's just FUN.)
somebody who actually knows their shit because I'd entirely forgotten about the dorsal-ventral arrangement.
It's not your fault that I was trained as a zoologist and used to teach Human Anatomy to pre-nursing students.
Thar be fic in the re-naming those babies.Oh yeah. Especially since 'Kenobi' means 'sword belt' and 'Qui-Gon' comes from 'qi gong' -- the Chinese philosophy of life energy manipulation
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Regarding the renaming thing - I always thought it was the other way around, with people born into privilege having their names and possibly memories taken away. Especially since Dooku and Xanatos both appear to have only the single name that I can tell, which is fairly unique for human Jedi. With most aristocracy, there'd be at least a family name.
Another example is Whie Malreaux from Yoda: Dark Rendezvous - in the temple only his first name is used, and neither he nor his Master have any idea he's aristocracy until someone tells him.
All those earth-etymology meanings are very meta. In-universe, there's no indication that sort of thing is noticed. Does Lucas stick it in? Sure. And it shows things about their characters. But to the characters themselves it shouldn't mean anything at all.
Do you think Random Aristocratic Parents would be more likely to name their darlings poison or death?
Yeah, I do. I'd assumed that 'Dooku' was a surname or a regnal name. The Jedi names we have all meaning things, from 'sword belt' to 'poison' to 'life energy manipulation'.
And nobility have named themselves to imply formidableness for millenia.
Also, I'm amused that Qui-Gon is basically an Earth human, and Obi-Wan is not.
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And God. Ever since I started reading SWfic, I've been WONDERING why everybody assumes that Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan are the same damn species. Sure, I've seen a couple of mpregs and one fic where they riffed on the hyphenation thing, but really, people. This is the Old Republic, after all. Tens of thousands of systems! Thousands of species!
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I've seen a couple of MPREGs too (Bren Antrim's one is FUNNY and gets into the idea that there are more than two possible genders out there) but very few people get into all the possibilities that SF should allow you.
The name hyphenation thing just makes me think that many Jedi are renamed when they joined the Order. Ben (Lars? I still like that idea, even if Lucas has tried to joss it) is given to the Jedi, he's renamed Obi-Wan Kenobi, because that name has meaning to the Jedi. Qui-Gon's birth name would likewise be different; he was probably called Quentin Geraint or something, you know?
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And ahah. Christ, see, this is the difference between me having had one human physiology class five years ago and somebody who actually knows their shit because I'd entirely forgotten about the dorsal-ventral arrangement. Good job, Rhod. :D The big giveaway was supposed to be the voicebox structure, but uh. I like the idea of Obi-Wan being the alien better anyways, so. *clears throat, looks around shifty ( ... )
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somebody who actually knows their shit because I'd entirely forgotten about the dorsal-ventral arrangement.
It's not your fault that I was trained as a zoologist and used to teach Human Anatomy to pre-nursing students.
Thar be fic in the re-naming those babies.Oh yeah. Especially since 'Kenobi' means 'sword belt' and 'Qui-Gon' comes from 'qi gong' -- the Chinese philosophy of life energy manipulation ( ... )
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Another example is Whie Malreaux from Yoda: Dark Rendezvous - in the temple only his first name is used, and neither he nor his Master have any idea he's aristocracy until someone tells him.
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Do you think Random Aristocratic Parents would be more likely to name their darlings poison or death?
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And nobility have named themselves to imply formidableness for millenia.
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