Great discussions in content but not in how they make one feel. I've had very similar comments with family members and friend's friends ("_) I haven't even tackled my partner's family who are all Lebanese and some of which just shrug the idea of their sister being gay under the carpet or back in the closet.
Good on you for taking a stand, speaking up and not just playing happy families.
ah. thankyou. I'm not really the happy families kinda girl as it turns out.
As to feelings, well....thats a whole other kettle of fish. I don't really communicate feelings real well. if at all. I guess I'm frustrated mostly - possibly still in shock.
I'm impressed that you tackle your friend's friends on it: like i said I'm not real good with strangers.
I've only started pulling up my gf's mum after 2 years. Although she is not too bad all things considered, and we get along well. If we didn't I don't know if I would be as confident in pulling her up on her comments (not just about gay, but race, and women's 'roles' and stuff. Different generations.)
I don't know much about Lebanese families but I thought they push everything under the carpet - the 'family has to be respectable regardless of the individual' or something like that? That must be especially tough on her - and you. Are you acknowledged as her partner by her family?
You are pretty much right when you say that "They push everything under the carpet" but I guess it may be more upbringing and the role religion has on one's beliefe's etc.
We are mostly acknowledged as being together by her siblings, however we are hardley discussed as being a couple if you know what I mean. It's is known but not really discussed in terms of what are our future plans and when are we going to settle down and have kids - but we get treated as a couple for Kris Kringle and invited as a couple to family and social events.
Well I guess being treated as a couple, is something. Although it must be tough not to be seen as permeant - even if it is not intentional it hurts when it is implied. Hopefully the longer you are together the more you will be seen as permanent in your partners life - and therefore theirs.
this is really nicely expressed and i just wish more people in the world appreciated this point of view. sexism, homophobia, racism, and so on, encompass obivously irrational beliefs and yet people subscribe to them... it makes no sense to me at all!
i read something recently (wish i could remember where); that "isms" tend to occur together, so that if someone is, for example, sexist, then they are more likely to also be racist, homophobic, and so on. i thought this was interesting...
Your into math and logic though right? I'm the same - if it contradicts itself I can't quite grasp how someone can't see that. It is blindingly obvious and yet so many people continue blindly ignoring the lack of logic in their unquestioned theories
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Good on you for taking a stand, speaking up and not just playing happy families.
YEAH!
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As to feelings, well....thats a whole other kettle of fish. I don't really communicate feelings real well. if at all.
I guess I'm frustrated mostly - possibly still in shock.
I'm impressed that you tackle your friend's friends on it: like i said I'm not real good with strangers.
I've only started pulling up my gf's mum after 2 years. Although she is not too bad all things considered, and we get along well. If we didn't I don't know if I would be as confident in pulling her up on her comments (not just about gay, but race, and women's 'roles' and stuff. Different generations.)
I don't know much about Lebanese families but I thought they push everything under the carpet - the 'family has to be respectable regardless of the individual' or something like that? That must be especially tough on her - and you. Are you acknowledged as her partner by her family?
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We are mostly acknowledged as being together by her siblings, however we are hardley discussed as being a couple if you know what I mean. It's is known but not really discussed in terms of what are our future plans and when are we going to settle down and have kids - but we get treated as a couple for Kris Kringle and invited as a couple to family and social events.
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i read something recently (wish i could remember where); that "isms" tend to occur together, so that if someone is, for example, sexist, then they are more likely to also be racist, homophobic, and so on. i thought this was interesting...
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