I remember when I learned about it when I was 12, I just couldn't believe that it was like that, sometimes history is much more strange than fiction XD; Polish-Russian relations are pure love, aren't they? ;) Actually whole Eastern Europe's history is like some kind of black comedy, it's nice to see that someone not from here is interested in it :)
Re: the benefits of international relationstikki2tokMarch 21 2010, 16:38:05 UTC
sorry, I do not like to write, and do it often. I have no right to say that the Polish policy is not correct, it is your choice. but how you create a new Poland, beginning with the full zero, ridiculously reminiscent of our revolution. Well, you know, lustration, the creation of a new social memory, the prohibition of Soviet symbols .. In addition, I find it strange desire as much as possible to complicate relations with Russia-all still a big market and a close neighbor. but I hope with time everything will be fine)) мир) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59po-Vh8GdA&feature=related
Re: the benefits of international relationsradittzMarch 21 2010, 23:53:45 UTC
There was no reason to not stay polite :) But yeah, as you can see we have very different view on the past and it's often too serious topics to change our opinions to make diplomacy easier...
aww, you know my stuff? O_o; I love your fanarts and fanfics since late 2008 XD
Re: the benefits of international relationspyrrhiccomedyMarch 22 2010, 00:12:40 UTC
There was no reason to not stay polite
In my experience, this is not always a good enough reason for people to stay polite! Especially about something like the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, which is, um, controversial. I've mostly stayed out of the conversation because I try not to talk about such sensitive subjects with people I don't know well, but it has been very interesting to read. =D
aww, you know my stuff? O_o;
Oh my God, who doesn't? XD I saw the 'Phoenix' picture when you first put that up and I've been watching you ever since! (A little while after that I was like, "Holy shit, how does my picture of Liet have like ten thousand views?!" and realized it was just because you had fav'd it. XD) I cannot tell you how hard I squealed when you did that picture of Liechtenstein as a member of the Guild, because Last Exile is my favorite anime and oh my God Dio and fffff~
Yeah, I love your art! XD I had no idea you read my fanfics, I'm so flattered! =D
Re: the benefits of international relationsradittzMarch 22 2010, 01:59:16 UTC
ah, you know I'm just calm person. I have very clear opinion about most of events of 20th century but I know that there are some people that think different and even if I tried, I wont change their view. Even if it's sometimes makes me a bit angry it's good to read how they see events like that Pact.
"Last Exile is my favorite anime" <- Really? :D OMG, it's my very favourite too - for characters, story, artwork, music.... This is the only anime that made me collecting its author's artbooks(I love Murata) *_* I'm always so happy to meet other fans of it, it's such underrated series... and you know what, maybe it's funny but I'm became Lithuania/Poland fan not for example becouse of my nationality, but becouse they reminded me Dio and Lucciola >__>
Worse, this attitude of the "civilized" West to "always barbaric" Russia is a long tradition. It is not surprising that in the Russian literature appear poems like "Slanderers Russia" by Pushkin or "The Scythians" Block. "The Scythians" (1918), incidentally, turned out to be a good geopolitical predictions about the fate of Europe, but, alas, the appeal of the poet still did not heard. "The skeleton of Europe" already was broken, and now Russia has moved to the next stanza - to an ironic observation of the wars.
"..Okay that's terrible so why am I laughing. Uhhh, yeah, pretty much! Even in America, we're usually taught that Russia is, you know, the Towering Nameless Faceless Monolith of Menace, Who Knows Neither Fear Nor Pity. It comes as a genuinely surprising thought to most Americans to think that, you know...Russians were afraid of the idea of nuclear war, too
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Re: About Mordor:radittzMarch 22 2010, 02:30:21 UTC
.... but villains are usually much more awsome than "good" characters :P When think about it, that's the reason why I like anime and manga so much, it's from different view than Western stuff and all characters usually have some reasons for their actions.
Is that bad if I laughed when I read "Ithilien - often overrun with orcs"? xD; LotR is <3
Polish-Russian relations are pure love, aren't they? ;) Actually whole Eastern Europe's history is like some kind of black comedy, it's nice to see that someone not from here is interested in it :)
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but I hope with time everything will be fine))
мир) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59po-Vh8GdA&feature=related
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I'm just relieved that everybody stayed polite. XD I bet that's how Russian and Polish diplomats feel all the time.
ah, could I add you to my f-list? Alatherna told me a lot of great stuff about you :)
Oh, please do! I was going to ask you as well, I really love your artwork. =D
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aww, you know my stuff? O_o; I love your fanarts and fanfics since late 2008 XD
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In my experience, this is not always a good enough reason for people to stay polite! Especially about something like the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, which is, um, controversial. I've mostly stayed out of the conversation because I try not to talk about such sensitive subjects with people I don't know well, but it has been very interesting to read. =D
aww, you know my stuff? O_o;
Oh my God, who doesn't? XD I saw the 'Phoenix' picture when you first put that up and I've been watching you ever since! (A little while after that I was like, "Holy shit, how does my picture of Liet have like ten thousand views?!" and realized it was just because you had fav'd it. XD) I cannot tell you how hard I squealed when you did that picture of Liechtenstein as a member of the Guild, because Last Exile is my favorite anime and oh my God Dio and fffff~
Yeah, I love your art! XD I had no idea you read my fanfics, I'm so flattered! =D
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"Last Exile is my favorite anime" <- Really? :D OMG, it's my very favourite too - for characters, story, artwork, music.... This is the only anime that made me collecting its author's artbooks(I love Murata) *_* I'm always so happy to meet other fans of it, it's such underrated series... and you know what, maybe it's funny but I'm became Lithuania/Poland fan not for example becouse of my nationality, but becouse they reminded me Dio and Lucciola >__>
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http://web.mmlc.northwestern.edu/~mdenner/Demo/texts/scythians_blok.html
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I wonder if those stupid stereotypes about Russia will finally gone in this century, I think that everything depends on politics... :/
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When think about it, that's the reason why I like anime and manga so much, it's from different view than Western stuff and all characters usually have some reasons for their actions.
Is that bad if I laughed when I read "Ithilien - often overrun with orcs"? xD;
LotR is <3
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