Dear Lord, please deliver me form your people.

Apr 28, 2005 16:31

Today at lunch I met a Civil Rights activist. He claimed to be an Human Rights activist, but he did not believe in gay marriages. He claimed not to be a hypocrite, and claimed to be sensitive to the strife of other minority groups, but he could not see past his own well-rehearsed ideals. He argued that African Americans were downtrodden by ( Read more... )

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popeyes_gf April 29 2005, 07:53:46 UTC
I'd say most of my friends do not know where I stand on the gay marriage issue. I purposely do not usually talk about it due to religious influences and hence a moral dilema. I will talk about just about anything if prompted, but yeah certain things will inevitably lead to arguments ( ... )

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purpleheart April 29 2005, 15:00:42 UTC
Yeah. I fully understand, respect and support people's opinions even if they differ form my own. I am not an activist for anything. He was not wrong in his opinion against gay marriages. I do not agree with his opinion, but I have no right toy say what is right or wrong. The problem i had with this guy was that he climed not to be a Cilvil RIghts activist, but rather a Human rights activist without fully understanding that that stance includes supporting more than only the African American and Arab minorities. He was being a hypocrite and did not even see it. He was so against hypocicy that he changed his name to "Real" and would not even tell me his real name. Even though I suppost gay marriages, thsi woudl not have pissed me off so much if he had not claimed to be all gung ho for every humans rights, because it was like "Yes! I belive in free rights for all people so they can do whatever they want! Oh, except gay people getting married becuse it is just a mental problem." Does that make more sense as to why it hacked me ( ... )

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popeyes_gf April 29 2005, 18:10:26 UTC
In a way I'm "one of them." I am a member of Amnesty International, a human rights organization, but there are a couple issues that I don't want to get involved with like gay marriage issues. This is not a matter of "I don't like gays" or something. It's like I said, a moral issue with me.

Technically marriage is not a human right. Sorry, but it's not (to my knowledge). And it's probably not an issue you will find Amnesty International bringing up as one. I ran a search on their website and you can find topics with people discussing it, but I don't think you'll find any more.

You can call me a hypocrite but to me human rights is more about making sure people aren't starving, aren't being tortured, have freedom of speech, and other less negotiable rights.

As for the civil rights activist thing... I wonder if every person that claims to be a civil rights activist supports polygamy. If they don't, does that mean they aren't a civil rights activist? That's the same type of thing as the gay marriage issue.

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purpleheart April 29 2005, 19:34:22 UTC
I am sorry this has gone so far. I did not mean to offend anyone. I was just ranting because it was a useless conversation with this guy who drained two hours out of my life without us enhancing each other's understanding. I know I am part of the problem too in some ways, but I do not wnat my beliefs to tread on anyone else's. I do not think you are a hypocrite at all. I respect your beliefs, luv. I am very sorry if it came a cross in the wrong way. I am way too live and let live for a political conversation or even a real political standpoint. Oh well. I am sorry if things came out wrong. And I am sorry to anyone else who reads this that may think i am being judgemental. That is the last thing I wanted. I hate causing waves. We still friendsies?

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stephaneyney April 29 2005, 12:30:25 UTC
Well, as a person working in a predominantly African - American school...I have a lot of students like that. They only think their own culture is important, though the sad fact is that they don't seem to know anything about their own history. For example, many of my kids think that slavery (the institution of) ended in the 1960's...they confuse Civil War with Civil Rights because it SOUNDS similiar.

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purpleheart April 29 2005, 19:36:34 UTC
damn.

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birdofparadox May 3 2005, 19:15:41 UTC
The ACLU actually does include gay marriage in their list of a million things to fight for, along with reproductive rights, issues with race and gender, which is why Matthew and I give them money...

What so many people do not seem to understand is that, sure, we all have our own pet projects that we're more likely to be concerned about, but injustice anywhere is injustice done to everyone. Every time the government or society thinks they have the right to marginalize anyone, it's easy to ignore it until it comes knocking on your backdoor.

Like it or not, we're all in the same boat--heathens, fundies, gays, blacks, women, the "privileged white man"... I just wish more people saw the merit in treating everyone as they'd like to be treated: you know, as a human being perfectly capable of governing her/his conscience.

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chicken_king May 5 2005, 16:37:42 UTC
In a completely logical, detached way, I suppose that people do have a right to oppose gay marriage. You know, since most say the original concept of marriage in this country was the Christian version, and that's how it should be. Of course, those same people who oppose gay marriage due to religious reasons, should also stick to their guns. Why stop there? Since technically a Christian Marriage is a union between two people and God, why not go ahead and say that No people of Athiest inclination, or even non-christian inclination can get married. There, that'd be what they should be saying ( ... )

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timetellsastory December 13 2005, 00:49:01 UTC
"This conversation was like talking to baboon's ass for two hours."

lol.

hey cool profile. I found ur LJ while looking for an old friend's. Ur username caught my eye. Purple is a symbolic colour for me.

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