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tinderblast July 21 2007, 16:33:52 UTC
I wondered what you'd do, after I read Snape's death. I put the book down and thought - what will happen to all the Snape fans, now? Will they leave fandom?

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ptyx July 21 2007, 16:38:41 UTC
There will be many different reactions. Some people will simply deny his death. I don't think I can do. As I said in my OP, I respect his death.

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Oops ptyx July 21 2007, 16:39:16 UTC
...I don't think I can do that...

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whatistigerbalm July 21 2007, 16:42:14 UTC
Not I!

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fodirteg July 21 2007, 16:45:09 UTC
What to do? Find the "lost" Resurrection Stone, of course. Or, write fic in which Harry/the Order/Aurors/someone goes back to the Shack to retrieve Snape's body, and finds it gone because he had previously taken antivenin. I'm sure he was able to "stopper Death" ...if Arthur Weasely could survive being bitten by Nagini, Snape can (at least in fanfic!)

Much as Harry sort-of dies to ensure Voldie's end, Snape had to at least appear to die to make Voldie believe that he had the power to use the Elder Wand.

Please write us more fic? :D

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ptyx July 21 2007, 16:59:17 UTC
Oh, I'm sure many fic writers will be able to do that, but not me, because as I said above, I respect Snape's death and his love for Lily.

What I can do is writing stories in the same universes of my previous stories. But I still don't know if I can do it.

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jakwezst July 21 2007, 17:31:14 UTC
You say you respect Snape's death AND his love for Lily so does that mean that you thought that JKR handled them well? I mean in your post you say that she is not good with the politics and that, so you think she's good with the theme of what, redemptive love? I personally thought the Prince's Tale was bad, really bad and when I read it after reading so many reaction posts extolling the merits of this chapter I was left mouth agape. I dunno, I think it failed for me on many, many levels and I think JKR failed too when it came to Snape. Not his death; not because it was less heroic than it might have been because THAT doesn't bother me that much. No there is just something at the heart of these books that even now makes me spitting mad to contemplate ( ... )

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ptyx July 21 2007, 17:56:11 UTC
No. If you read my OP, I said that Snape/Lily ... was awfully written and made me cringe. Yet, I think this is part of canon!Snape, his love for Lily, and we cannot understand Snape without it. His love for Lily is the reason why he changed sides, and why he protected Harry. I respect this.

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corvus_coronis July 21 2007, 16:49:36 UTC
So will I.

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ptyx July 21 2007, 16:59:47 UTC
That's great!

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corvus_coronis July 21 2007, 17:05:26 UTC
Canon fandom though... that's a different matter. DH friendly AU's I can see myself continuing with, but there were some things in DH that just made me a little mad. I'll post my thoughts in my LJ under the spoiler tag after I've calmed down a bit.

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corvus_coronis July 21 2007, 17:16:12 UTC
Also, I did that Patronus pic ;)

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sander123 July 21 2007, 17:10:06 UTC
Good analysis!
I actually liked the parts with Lily (the playground-love and him threatening to sleep on Gryffindor threshold).
And I loved Skeeter biography of Dumbledore...

About his death: I can not accept it: A Potions Master bitten to death by a snake! Wihtout Harry accidentally popping up all his memories would have been lost - and Harry would have lost the war... And Snape was going down without a fight? I can not accept that, the only thing he was doing the last 18 years was to live for this moment...
So I think his death could have been an illusion to peace Voldemort. As Harry came to him he decided to play along to bluff Harry, too (it would have been hard for Snape to redeem himself after-war.
We have only the mentioning of the eyes changing, but they didn't collect his body, there was no portrait in the headmaster-study, no ghost or after-life Snape, no burial.

:) What do you think? Still a glimmer of hope?

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ptyx July 21 2007, 17:17:50 UTC
I didn't like Skeeter biography at all, unless it was done as an example of bad writing!

I can see your point, but I guess Voldemort was really invincible. And Snape was a spy, he couldn't confront Voldemort openly... I would like him to have a different death, or not to die at all, but alas, it's done.

Not for me. I respect Snape's death. It's sad, but I can help feeling the way I feel.

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titti July 21 2007, 17:21:05 UTC
I thought she did an amazing job drawing the parallels with Nazi Germany and the underground radio programmes and still make it accessible to the children. I can't be the only one who thought about Azkaban as the new Auschwitz, and the Muggle committee the new committee for purity, asking the Muggleborns to prove that they weren't, just like the Jews would find long long relatives that were Christian and learnt the Our Father and Hail Mary.

I think that affected me more than any death in the book.

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ptyx July 21 2007, 17:32:48 UTC
Yes, it's exactly because the parallels are so clear that some other aspects/passages jar, because they aren't plausible at all. Like, Voldemort taking the Ministry in one day.

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titti July 21 2007, 17:40:27 UTC
I don't know, maybe because I read it as a fan and a mother, I don't mind that as much. It's politics made easy for the children. However, on an adult level I'd argue that it wasn't in one day. We have foreshadowing that they control the ministry already, enough people are either Death Eaters or under the Imperious. Killing Scrimgeour was just the last tassel in an ongoing relatively peaceful overthrow.

Now, if we're talking fast, getting Remus and Tonks from 'okay, we'll be together' to 'married' in a month was stupid and gave fandom whiplash.

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ptyx July 21 2007, 17:52:43 UTC
My comment on politics and history was mostly because of alchemia's post, which you can read here:
http://alchemia.livejournal.com/321884.html (I've edited my OP to include this referrence).

Pfft, romance is not JKR's forte either :(

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