The Left covers for their crimes and Hillary by yelling “Fake News”

Mar 10, 2017 14:07

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yes_justice March 11 2017, 08:56:25 UTC

yes_justice March 11 2017, 08:59:56 UTC
"The Left covers for their crimes and Hillary by yelling “Fake News”"

The fuck is that bs?

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johnny9fingers March 11 2017, 09:15:08 UTC
This is known as seeding the ground.
You use that sort of language to skew the starting conditions of the debate. If you haven't worked out yet, milord pigshitpoet is a subtle pusher of the alt-right agenda. All in the guise of balance and fairness, of course.

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yes_justice March 11 2017, 09:35:43 UTC
Gross.

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johnny9fingers March 11 2017, 12:33:46 UTC
Well I started a graph plotting posts and comments co-incidental to GOP/right-wing mishaps, to see how much of it is smoke-screening and general obfuscation. And then I did the same with my posts.
My posts and comments on posts in general attack GOP policies in the US and many Tory policies in the UK and right-wing lunacies in both polities. (Because I'm an antifascist, as well as a conservative of a kind.) Other folk's posts seem to have a different agenda.
Though my posts have tailed off into such sporadic spasms of activity it could be considered to be little other than a dead cat bounce.

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peristaltor March 11 2017, 19:19:50 UTC
Let's see.... "Fake news" is often described as "outlets dedicated only to spinning news in a certain direction in order to sell advertising."

Which would mean all commercial news is fake.

Put it that way, and it becomes clear why no news outlet really tackles any issues like income inequality, decline of labor unions (and the ongoing war thereon), tax breaks for corporations, all of which (and more!) that don't fit with the corporate advertisers' agendas.

What we're seeing now is a media complex that was used to access in the previous administrations, but is being shut out now by one that realizes the media is so weakened by the flight of advertising to the web that they haven't the resources to challenge their exclusion ( ... )

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pigshitpoet March 12 2017, 04:36:58 UTC
thanks

yes, i am familiar with chomsky. great little summary in the video. manufacturing consent.. i enjoyed that movie when it first appeared.

other perspectives i am reminded of are marshall macluhan the medium is the massage, guy debord society of the spectacle and david icke the movie and the agenda. all speak of this doublespeak through media spin for public opinion.

so is this simply reflective of our human nature, or are we using it psychologically as a control experiment for some larger purpose, like the global agenda?

i also liked what the bleep do we know now?

; )

my measuring stick in all this is follow the money. who does it serve?

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peristaltor March 12 2017, 18:52:34 UTC
...follow the money. who does it serve?

I'm not sure it serves anyone, anymore, except elites who benefit from not being investigated by annoying reporters.

Like I said, the "system" has broken. The ads that used to fund (for one example) the state capitol reporter have migrated to the net, taking news funding with them. Here in Washington, there are exactly two regular reporters assigned to follow legislation for the entire state.

People in general were better off even in the days when the papers were horribly partisan, simply because different papers played different sides of the partisan aisle. Read enough papers, and one could be relatively well informed.

That is no longer the case, and Trump (and Obama, for that matter, who kept photographers out of signings and gave interviews to non-news people) are taking advantage of it.

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pigshitpoet March 13 2017, 08:53:38 UTC
OMG yes

now you've spoken exact words i've used before, in my own conversations..

benefits only elites

the system is broken so fix it

anything is possible hiding behind this web

yes, the diversity has lessened, the media has sold out

harper pulled the same scams. he prorogued parliament to side step the issues for tar sands profits, he sold out our resources to china, he censored the media, silenced scientists and environmentalists, killed funding to public media and culture and put his own media network in place called sun tv. and like mafia, nobody could lay a finger on him. that's just our side of the border. the u.s. is ten times the magnitude of disarray. trillions of dollars. trillions. most people can't even count that high let alone fathom this.

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peristaltor March 14 2017, 00:27:04 UTC
It's not my original conclusion, but yeah. Once you frame it properly, the problem becomes obvious.

The problem, though, is that the media outlets have no obligation whatsoever to explain the magnitude of the situation, let alone even hint it exists.

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