yes, i am familiar with chomsky. great little summary in the video. manufacturing consent.. i enjoyed that movie when it first appeared.
other perspectives i am reminded of are marshall macluhan the medium is the massage, guy debord society of the spectacle and david icke the movie and the agenda. all speak of this doublespeak through media spin for public opinion.
so is this simply reflective of our human nature, or are we using it psychologically as a control experiment for some larger purpose, like the global agenda?
i also liked what the bleep do we know now?
; )
my measuring stick in all this is follow the money. who does it serve?
I'm not sure it serves anyone, anymore, except elites who benefit from not being investigated by annoying reporters.
Like I said, the "system" has broken. The ads that used to fund (for one example) the state capitol reporter have migrated to the net, taking news funding with them. Here in Washington, there are exactly two regular reporters assigned to follow legislation for the entire state.
People in general were better off even in the days when the papers were horribly partisan, simply because different papers played different sides of the partisan aisle. Read enough papers, and one could be relatively well informed.
That is no longer the case, and Trump (and Obama, for that matter, who kept photographers out of signings and gave interviews to non-news people) are taking advantage of it.
now you've spoken exact words i've used before, in my own conversations..
benefits only elites
the system is broken so fix it
anything is possible hiding behind this web
yes, the diversity has lessened, the media has sold out
harper pulled the same scams. he prorogued parliament to side step the issues for tar sands profits, he sold out our resources to china, he censored the media, silenced scientists and environmentalists, killed funding to public media and culture and put his own media network in place called sun tv. and like mafia, nobody could lay a finger on him. that's just our side of the border. the u.s. is ten times the magnitude of disarray. trillions of dollars. trillions. most people can't even count that high let alone fathom this.
maybe they aren't able to assess that without some time to reflect back on it or investigate further.
Nope. They have no option but denial.
Remember, their outlet (whatever it is) must maintain a facade of integrity, a mask of competency. Admit that they haven't the staff to fully inform their readers/listeners/viewers, and the Emperor just admitted to strolling in full-on Godiva mode. Just admitting weakness affects their bottom line: the rates their advertisers pay.
it's so often sensationalist and then on to the next spectacle
That's always been the case. What happened in the Golden Age is simply that there were too many reporters, so they started digging into stories that previously went undug. Lots of crooked politicians got caught doing what they had done for decades
( ... )
and for some semblance of the truth it behooves us to look to independent media....
Not so fast. It does alright, but it is chronically underfunded. We need to find money to pay professionals if we are going to fix this predicament.
are you a journalist? or do you just care about the truth?
I thought about journalism after college, which was just as the situation started to worsen. Got lucky there.
Everyone cares about the truth. I care that the populace is informed sufficiently to make pragmatic decisions (which they aren't).
Full disclosure: I started reading about media in earnest after I started my podcast, which focuses on advertising. All of our news is commercial; I followed that train of thought and found where it got to the wreck in the tracks caused by the fleeing of ad money
( ... )
yes, i am familiar with chomsky. great little summary in the video. manufacturing consent.. i enjoyed that movie when it first appeared.
other perspectives i am reminded of are marshall macluhan the medium is the massage, guy debord society of the spectacle and david icke the movie and the agenda. all speak of this doublespeak through media spin for public opinion.
so is this simply reflective of our human nature, or are we using it psychologically as a control experiment for some larger purpose, like the global agenda?
i also liked what the bleep do we know now?
; )
my measuring stick in all this is follow the money. who does it serve?
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I'm not sure it serves anyone, anymore, except elites who benefit from not being investigated by annoying reporters.
Like I said, the "system" has broken. The ads that used to fund (for one example) the state capitol reporter have migrated to the net, taking news funding with them. Here in Washington, there are exactly two regular reporters assigned to follow legislation for the entire state.
People in general were better off even in the days when the papers were horribly partisan, simply because different papers played different sides of the partisan aisle. Read enough papers, and one could be relatively well informed.
That is no longer the case, and Trump (and Obama, for that matter, who kept photographers out of signings and gave interviews to non-news people) are taking advantage of it.
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now you've spoken exact words i've used before, in my own conversations..
benefits only elites
the system is broken so fix it
anything is possible hiding behind this web
yes, the diversity has lessened, the media has sold out
harper pulled the same scams. he prorogued parliament to side step the issues for tar sands profits, he sold out our resources to china, he censored the media, silenced scientists and environmentalists, killed funding to public media and culture and put his own media network in place called sun tv. and like mafia, nobody could lay a finger on him. that's just our side of the border. the u.s. is ten times the magnitude of disarray. trillions of dollars. trillions. most people can't even count that high let alone fathom this.
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The problem, though, is that the media outlets have no obligation whatsoever to explain the magnitude of the situation, let alone even hint it exists.
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maybe they aren't able to assess that without some time to reflect back on it or investigate further.
it's so often sensationalist and then on to the next spectacle
; '
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Nope. They have no option but denial.
Remember, their outlet (whatever it is) must maintain a facade of integrity, a mask of competency. Admit that they haven't the staff to fully inform their readers/listeners/viewers, and the Emperor just admitted to strolling in full-on Godiva mode. Just admitting weakness affects their bottom line: the rates their advertisers pay.
it's so often sensationalist and then on to the next spectacle
That's always been the case. What happened in the Golden Age is simply that there were too many reporters, so they started digging into stories that previously went undug. Lots of crooked politicians got caught doing what they had done for decades ( ... )
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right, "i am the informant. listen to me" - arnold schwartzenneger -- "leave my tortillas alone!" ))
so, then let's just say, it's good entertainment when taken with a grain of salt.. like what are the morons up to today? )))
and for some semblance of the truth it behooves us to look to independent media, although that's probably full of some reverse hegemony too
are you a journalist? or do you just care about the truth?
or both?
you seem fairly astute
ok, so i've come up with a new headline -- ( The Left covers their Right Arse for Hillary by yelling “Fake Jews” ) - Oh, how Soros floats....
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Not so fast. It does alright, but it is chronically underfunded. We need to find money to pay professionals if we are going to fix this predicament.
are you a journalist? or do you just care about the truth?
I thought about journalism after college, which was just as the situation started to worsen. Got lucky there.
Everyone cares about the truth. I care that the populace is informed sufficiently to make pragmatic decisions (which they aren't).
Full disclosure: I started reading about media in earnest after I started my podcast, which focuses on advertising. All of our news is commercial; I followed that train of thought and found where it got to the wreck in the tracks caused by the fleeing of ad money ( ... )
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