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hardblue January 25 2014, 21:48:20 UTC
I suppose this line of Republicans are tough and Dems are weak goes
back to the cold war, when Republicans were seen as more hawkish
against the communists and the Democrats were more into detente and
negotiation. It was a winning line, and guess it dies hard.

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telemann January 25 2014, 22:03:06 UTC
Yeah prolly more recently because of Vietnam (Nixon versus everyone), and perhaps Jimmy Carter and the Soviet invasion of Afganistan, and the crackdowns on unions in Poland, and the Iranian hostage crisis. Which makes me wonder, when President Obama ordered the operation that got OBL, and had that ended in disaster (it very nearly did)-- what do you think the right wing's take would have been compared to what we saw in general ("oh it wasn't like Obama did this by himself! George Bush and Cheney deserve a lot of the credit too!")

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hardblue January 25 2014, 22:59:29 UTC
I know what you are saying, but this mythos of strong red-white-and-blue
Republicans and pinko-softy Dems, as well as I can recall the history, stems
from the Cold War and our stances on the Soviet Union.

As for the War on Terror, I am afraid that Republicans have had some ease
on pulling on those same strings, at least early on. After all, Republicans were even wiling to
attack the wrong country, whereas from the liberals we supposedly see more
concern about Islamophobia than terrorism, and how 9/11 is really our fault
because of American imperialism, etc. Why do we hate America? etc.

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usekh January 25 2014, 22:58:42 UTC
Amen. He is not a "man's man" he is a bully and a thug

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hardblue January 26 2014, 01:21:10 UTC
I should think he is more like a mafia don than a thug. ;)

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brother_dour January 26 2014, 02:41:14 UTC
War is unavoidable.

Having said that, unavoidable =/= "we need cheaper gas prices!"

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cinnamontoast January 26 2014, 17:42:30 UTC
Why is war unavoidable? I don't think it is. In fact, I think that someday it will be something that humans will look at as part of our barbaric past.

Why do I think this way? Slowly, people are beginning to realize that even their enemies are human beings and not the parodies of evil that they've been made out to be by the ruling factions of society. Our barriers are coming down and with electronic devices individuals can communicate directly with each other. This includes language barriers - Eventually the world will speak one language.

I don't expect to see an end to war. I don't expect that war will end in the next century. I do think it will end though. Eventually the idea that war is an unacceptable way for governments to handle conflict will catch on.

Yes, those are my rose colored glasses.

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telemann January 26 2014, 17:56:47 UTC
Yeah, we're free agents. Nothing in inevitable. According to Robert McNamara (President Kennedy's Defense Secretary) it was a foregone conclusion in the late 1950s, and early 1960s nuclear war was inevitable.

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cinnamontoast January 27 2014, 05:47:37 UTC
Yep. And all the attending fears. I'm so glad I never lived through a nuclear winter. We were all convinced that we would have to eventually.

*whew*

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trog January 26 2014, 12:28:18 UTC
Kudos to Maher. Even a stopped clock is right twice per day.

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telemann January 26 2014, 17:50:41 UTC
Gotta crack a few eggs if you want an omelette !

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