Comments | pocochina: SPN 9x1-9 meta the first

pocochina

SPN 9x1-9 meta the first

Dec 08, 2013 15:51

I say "the first" because you all can probably count on a lot more pointedly-not-saying-I-told-you-so posts over the next five weeks.

( since it was coming out in aggravatingly truncated little tumblr posts everywhere )

spn: sammay!, supernatural, spn: season 9, btvs/ats, spn: dean what even

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ellie_234 December 9 2013, 09:14:16 UTC

Well my answer would be Sam . Sam is the only one that has any right to claim his name and to decide his life and fate. This Zeke/Gadreal possession is the ulitmate usurping of someone's autonomy in the name of 'love' according to many fans. I will confess my issues with Dean and his treatment of Sam started in season 3 so I am not surprised we have reached this point in the brothers relationship that Sam does not have a say over his own body , it is both heartbreaking and disturbing.

pocochina December 9 2013, 17:17:22 UTC

This Zeke/Gadreal possession is the ulitmate usurping of someone's autonomy in the name of 'love' according to many fans

I LOVE it because exactly this: it's the logical extension of everything that's gone on for years and years now, and if that's what it takes to get it to sink in for people, so be it.

I will confess my issues with Dean and his treatment of Sam started in season 3 so I am not surprised we have reached this point in the brothers relationship that Sam does not have a say over his own body , it is both heartbreaking and disturbing

BUT THE RITURRRZZZ DONT UNDERSTAND DEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAN JEREMY CARVER SUXXXX WTF I QUIT THIS SHOW FOREVER FOR THE TENTH TIME THIS WEEK WARBLGRBL DA BRUDDERRRRRRRS

LMAO fucking people.

duckondebut December 10 2013, 17:14:47 UTC

because you all can probably count on a lot more pointedly-not-saying-I-told-you-so posts over the next five weeks.

DON'T EVER STOP

Gadreel exists to show us the problems inherent to the SamnDean arrangement

Yes, yes, yes--a week later, I'm still unable to get over the brilliance of Gadreel. Also what makes him scary as fuck is that Gadreel is fully aware of Sam in a way that he knows how to perfectly replicate Sam's panic and betrayal and channel Sam's anger to punch Dean--and he STILL goes on. He channelled Dean to deliver that showy bluster to Sam in his dreamscape and trick him. Gadreel is in every way Dean's Ruby--except this time, the consequences are bigger and so much more worseThat meta you linked about Sam "still stuck in the cage" really disturbs me, though? Sam's arc is one of the cleanest, loveliest that I've seen--and even if it has been frustratingly opaque at times, it's always been consistent. s6-and beyond Sam seems to me like a logical progression from what happened to him at the end of s5? Here's Sam, ( ... )

pocochina December 10 2013, 22:24:33 UTC

DON'T EVER STOP

hahahaha, DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT.

Also what makes him scary as fuck is that Gadreel is fully aware of Sam in a way that he knows how to perfectly replicate Sam's panic and betrayal and channel Sam's anger to punch Dean--and he STILL goes on. He channelled Dean to deliver that showy bluster to Sam in his dreamscape and trick him.

YES. I think Gadreel has the same knack for unconscious behavioral adaptability as, well, Dean? but amped up to mega-super-angelic degrees, and then further magnified by thousands and thousands of years of isolation. I don't think Gadreel has any idea how good at this he is.

Gadreel is in every way Dean's Ruby--except this time, the consequences are bigger and so much more worse.

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That meta you linked about Sam "still stuck in the cage" really disturbs me, though? Sam's arc is one of the cleanest, loveliest that I've seen--and even if it has been frustratingly opaque at times, it's always been consistent. s6-and beyond Sam seems to me like a logical progression from what happened ( ... )