YES. I couldn't fit him in to my post because it would have been too messy, but absolutely. I was thinking of Dean&Cas though, like, The Born-Again Identity, where Dean is all ARE YOU SURE YOU AREN'T A BAD PERSON. That's Dean, always trying to convince everybody else how awful they are, lol.
The show is very aware of the issues with Dean's insincerity about the big emotional moments. Dean says he likes dogs; Portia sees right through him.
haha, yes. I find the best way to understand what's going on is to always remember Dean's a liar. Not that he thinks he is, of course. He believes his own lies.
That's Dean, always trying to convince everybody else how awful they are, lol.
Yeah. It's not that I don't feel for the root issue of his dissatisfaction with himself? It's just not so deeply overwhelming to me that I miss how he rationalizes his controlling bullshit and keeps everyone else in line by making it clear that he has an even lower opinion of them. And yeah:
always remember Dean's a liar. Not that he thinks he is, of course. He believes his own lies.
he completely convinces himself it's all true. It's very frightening and very dangerous.
Julie Benz told Nina Dobrev that the big difference between Katherine and Elena was that everything Katherine said was a lie and everything Elena said was the truth. And it has stuck in my head ever since as a good way to look at Dean and Sam, ha ha. Yes, Sam hides stuff and runs away and yes, lies on occasion. But Dean's lies encompass almost everything about him - his "cool" image in high school, his current "bad boy" dress ware and pseudo attitude, his being the good son and the good brother thus making him both right and righteous. What's funny about Dean is that he's the opposite of Groucho Marx - the only club Dean wants to be in is Club Dean
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Yes, Sam hides stuff and runs away and yes, lies on occasion. But Dean's lies encompass almost everything about him - his "cool" image in high school, his current "bad boy" dress ware and pseudo attitude, his being the good son and the good brother thus making him both right and righteous.
lol, Dean reminds me a lot of Elena, actually, even though I like her a lot. Like Elena, he's very good at rationalizing his bullshit by convincing himself it's true. (And, you know, treating other people's minds like Etch-A-Sketches because his ~pweshus feelings are the most important thing in the world.) I've literally c&p'd my thoughts about one of them and changed nothing but pronouns in meta about the other.
I sometimes wonder if the show believes what Dean believes, and is unaware that Dean is lying so much. They may put his lies out there, but they don't call him on them, or else they use it as a pity-pump primer, so it gets excused that way. I feel there is no trick in the book that this show won't pull in order to get the audience to
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YES. I couldn't fit him in to my post because it would have been too messy, but absolutely. I was thinking of Dean&Cas though, like, The Born-Again Identity, where Dean is all ARE YOU SURE YOU AREN'T A BAD PERSON. That's Dean, always trying to convince everybody else how awful they are, lol.
The show is very aware of the issues with Dean's insincerity about the big emotional moments. Dean says he likes dogs; Portia sees right through him.
haha, yes. I find the best way to understand what's going on is to always remember Dean's a liar. Not that he thinks he is, of course. He believes his own lies.
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Yeah. It's not that I don't feel for the root issue of his dissatisfaction with himself? It's just not so deeply overwhelming to me that I miss how he rationalizes his controlling bullshit and keeps everyone else in line by making it clear that he has an even lower opinion of them. And yeah:
always remember Dean's a liar. Not that he thinks he is, of course. He believes his own lies.
he completely convinces himself it's all true. It's very frightening and very dangerous.
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lol, Dean reminds me a lot of Elena, actually, even though I like her a lot. Like Elena, he's very good at rationalizing his bullshit by convincing himself it's true. (And, you know, treating other people's minds like Etch-A-Sketches because his ~pweshus feelings are the most important thing in the world.) I've literally c&p'd my thoughts about one of them and changed nothing but pronouns in meta about the other.
I sometimes wonder if the show believes what Dean believes, and is unaware that Dean is lying so much. They may put his lies out there, but they don't call him on them, or else they use it as a pity-pump primer, so it gets excused that way. I feel there is no trick in the book that this show won't pull in order to get the audience to ( ... )
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