Caprica thoughts

Nov 05, 2011 16:59

Maybe the third time will be the charm with Caprica? I started again a little while ago and this time, it's eating my brain in the best possible way, to the point where I'm wondering how it didn’t catch my attention so much before.

spoilers through the first half of the show )

bsg, bsg: caprica, religion

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obsessive_a101 November 5 2011, 21:05:16 UTC
Confession one: I still have not been able to watch Caprica. I've only seen the pilot. :3

However, I am curious to see more of the world BSG came from. :3

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pocochina November 5 2011, 21:13:46 UTC
It's just...the same universe, but it's an entirely different show in terms of viewer experience, because it can't be a space opera. It feels more like a fantasy world than anything. I think it's jarring to watch if you're expecting anything that feels like BSG. But on its own merits, it's really good, and in some places a lot more intellectually sophisticated.

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obsessive_a101 November 5 2011, 21:40:29 UTC
LOL - I felt as much from the pilot. :) Though I think one of the primary reasons is that I just hadn't had the time (or energy) to invest. ><" As of this moment, my entertainment schedule consists of fluff with the weekly doses of CSI/MM-on-theCloser/American Pickers - oh - and the Daily Show with John Stewart, which my Sociology [on healthcare] professor encouraged us all to watch. :) (I am, however, trying to find a way to watch BtVS and TVD once I am done with my thesis (hopefully) at the beginning of March.)

However, I LOVED the article you linked to - well - the one linked from the second link, but it's the wrongquestion blogspot. And now, am reading and nodding my head along to the other link to the same blog. (^_ ( ... )

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pocochina November 6 2011, 01:21:56 UTC
I felt like so much about loving BSG involved taking it into fandom and letting fandom have its way to say what the show and characters were trying to say some times... despite what the writers/producers felt the need to say (which usually amounts to a bit of awkwardness/dissociation).

Yes, exactly. The show worked with such rich symbolism that I'm not sure everyone involved knew what they were saying half the time. I feel like with a story that powerful, it's so much better not to limit yourself to expressed authorial intent.

VAMPIRES >>>> ROBOTS ALWAYS, though! I hope you enjoy if you get around to either show.

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ceciliaj November 5 2011, 23:47:23 UTC
I looooooove Caprica!! Have you seen aycheb's Graystones vid?

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pocochina November 6 2011, 00:41:46 UTC
ooooh, I haven't but I will, thank you! IT IS SO GOOD, how did I not love it yet?!

Really, it's a lot more like Dollhouse than BSG, in feel and theme and structure. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that it was brilliant but unappreciated.

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pocochina November 6 2011, 01:05:46 UTC
It's fantastic. I'm so hooked.

Yeah, I feel like...BSG was prizing the idea of ambiguity, more so than recognizing the ambiguities that came up organically. Even aside from whatever I take issue with, the execution has to fall apart. And I feel like Caprica is avoiding that by refusing to take sides in this way.

why people who are like the people we know our favourite Cylon characters to be would make the decisions they did

That would be fascinating, I hope you do. That's the other thing that gets lost in the blame-the-victims attempt to turn the table, is a legitimate explanation of why.

I thought BSG was going to retcon the genocide by saying that what the Cylons actually did was take the Galactica into a virtual universe in which the Colonies had been destroyed

OOOOH, I LOVE THIS.

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pocochina November 6 2011, 04:31:46 UTC
5. Why so much of the show seems to operate on 'morality play' logic. (Answer: because it is in fact being staged as a morality play)
6. Why the education minister was in charge (because the whole thing was meant to be...an education)

This is so fantastically meta.

The Graystones are great. They're believably complicated without that scary abusive streak. I really love Daniel and Amanda's relationship, too; they realistically act like people putting work into a marriage in tough times, which I haven't seen very often.

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bobthemole November 6 2011, 00:52:36 UTC
I watched Caprica without having seen a single episode of BSG. I'm interested by the sense of impending DOOM that you perceived, because that was nearly invisible to me.

Caprica does a good job standing alone as a family drama, for the most part. It did get confusing at the end - the narrative arc started bending in unexpected ways. That must be because the end of the series was supposed to hook into the BSG world, and the transition wasn't seamless.

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pocochina November 6 2011, 01:18:12 UTC
Yeah, one story is really not necessary for the other, but there's a lot of thematic overlap.

That must be because the end of the series was supposed to hook into the BSG world, and the transition wasn't seamless.

Nice that they made the effort at some point. #bitter

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hobbit_kate November 6 2011, 10:06:17 UTC
They felt a sense of impending DOOM themselves and wanted to tie it up nicely before getting cancelled. Kind of reminds me of the last parts of both seasons of Dollhouse. That feeling they compressed everything they could of the next season into the last five episodes.

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mother November 6 2011, 04:23:07 UTC
Is the second season out yet? I watched the first and then forgot about it.

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mother November 6 2011, 04:23:45 UTC
Oh nvm, it got cancelled. Ahah... aw :(

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pocochina November 6 2011, 04:32:23 UTC
I KNOW. I am hurting for more, too.

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