Comments | plumapen: and another one bites the dust

plumapen

and another one bites the dust

Feb 07, 2008 15:38

Romney Suspends Campaign.

Now there's a bit of a shocker. I thought surely Huckabee or Paul would drop out first.

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sprootles February 8 2008, 01:08:04 UTC

I think it's a clever ruse.

I think he's bowing out so McCain will have the definite nod and then he might be picked as VP...God help us all.

plumapen February 8 2008, 01:12:25 UTC

I agree - on the ruse and the help from God. Uy vey.

michablack February 8 2008, 05:08:52 UTC

Wait, is Paul still in the running?

plumapen February 8 2008, 06:37:31 UTC

He is. Amazing, isn't it?

michablack February 8 2008, 14:26:12 UTC

Huh, I didn't know that and I'm following the entire thing as much as I can, as much our own elections. I guess that's what happens when you don't get all of the coverage, heh.

plumapen February 9 2008, 05:48:38 UTC

Could be. But then, the press isn't paying that much attention to him over here either since he's not really doing very well.

dead_sexydexy February 8 2008, 05:47:33 UTC

Yes Paul is still hanging in somehow. *pats personal preferance who hasn't got a chance*

Just. No. Huckabee. *dies ded*

plumapen February 8 2008, 06:40:28 UTC

Funny. I've tried to understand the buzz about Paul but I'm dumbfounded. All he seems to focus on is American Empire and anti-war this and that. The few times he was thrown a question during the GOP debate last week, I kept thinking he sounded more like a liberal or an independent than a Republican. Can you enlighten me a little on him?

dead_sexydexy February 9 2008, 02:40:54 UTC

He's actually a Libertarian, so good call on him not seeming truly Republican.

www.libertarianism.com does a somewhat decent job of explaining their views. It reads too much like an ad persuading people to join their view for my taste, but I'm not up to searching for a more straightforward explaination without the rah-rah at the moment.

I'm not one with strong political opinions period. I think I'm a political agnostic-- cynic for certain. I do pull my head from the sand long enough to find someone I can stomach voting for when elections roll around.

(Hope this doesn't sound too blunt. Cold/headache/ick going on.)

plumapen February 9 2008, 05:10:29 UTC

I think I need to start asking myself whether I'm giving off an "ultra-ist" vibe or something when it comes to politics. lol For the record, I consider myself a moderate Dem, which means I don't tend to swing to the extremes of either party (or any, really); I often find myself agreeing on certain things with "the other side," if that makes sense. Besides that, my years of teaching critical thinking pretty much stomped out any knee-jerk hellfire responses from me on issues if they ever did surface--kinda defeats the purpose when you're trying to teach kids to look at all angles of an argument. Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is you don't have to worry about sounding "blunt" with me. /disclaimer (And btw your response didn't come off as 'blunt' at all :D ( ... )

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canutius February 8 2008, 06:16:40 UTC

I am afraid of McCain. Really afraid. I'm also afraid the democrats won't have a strong enough candidate to win. This scares me even more than I can tell you.

plumapen February 8 2008, 06:37:04 UTC

I think you need not fear for the Dems. I haven't been this excited about a presidential election in a very long time, and I know I'm not the only one. The voter turnouts on the Dem side alone have been record breaking in most states. Both Hillary and Obama's campaigns are very exciting and Obama's momentum is pretty unreal right now--he's igniting the American imagination again, and not just among Dems. As for McCain, though a Rep, the conservatives here all hate his guts b/c they view him as too liberal. Seriously, even Rush Limbaugh and James Dobson are speaking out against him--Limbaugh went so far as to say he'd vote for Clinton or Obama before voting for McCain. Honestly, McCain scares me a lot less than W does. He may be trying to spin the "I'm a conservative" talk now to try can capture that voter base, but no one believes him. Personally, of the rest of the Reps, part of me likes him if for nothing else than what he went through in Vietnam. Huckabee also seems less scary ( ... )

canutius February 8 2008, 07:20:52 UTC

McCain scares me a lot less than W does ( ... )

plumapen February 8 2008, 07:44:03 UTC

I gotcha. I think the next president will need experience as well, especially with all the things s/he'll have to face once they're in. (Oh, and W = Bush, you know, Dubya? lol) I've been watching A LOT of CNN and utilizing their website. Of all the outlets, I think they're being the most balanced, which is saying something. I ignore Fox News completely and MSNBC is really falling heavily on the left, imo, which is sad as I used to like them. Me, I like to get a balanced perspective as much as possible too so I try to mix it up as well. Incidentally, Anderson Cooper had a really good special report tonight on the challenges facing the next presidency (not sure if the podcast will have it but if you're interested, scroll down on the AC's program page; tonight's podcast isn't up yet though). Have you checked out the candidates' websites at all? Btw, will you get to vote in this election? I know in the past there've been some quirks.

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bird_mom February 8 2008, 11:49:20 UTC

As excited as you are about the possibilities of a woman president or a black president, I think that if Hillary gets the Dem nomination, McCain will wipe the floor with her. She's too polarizing a figure to appeal to enough of a cross section of the country to get a majority vote. Personally, I'd rather see Obama get the nomination, despite his lack of experience, because of the fact that he has been energizing the public and getting people involved who haven't been involved before. I was having a hard time listening to Hillary's commercials citing her 35 years of experience. She's been in elected office herself all of, what, 7 years? I think it's somewhat disingenuous to include Bill's terms as her own. Or are those 35 years her time since she originally passed the bar? I dunno ( ... )

sprootles February 8 2008, 15:00:21 UTC

So, not knowing you personally or your political affiliation, let me ask you this:

If you are a Democrat, and your man Obama doesn't get the nom, are you going to flip over and vote McCain? Because, while respect that everyone can vote for whomever they choose, that really terrifies me.

It doesn't matter what McCain's personal views are, he is serving the Republican party. That's the problem with the "party" system in the U.S. in my opinion.

I think Democrats, whether they like Hilary or not, should consider that if they flip over to McCain (should Hilary get the nom), we're back to at least four more years of a Bush style presidency.

bird_mom February 8 2008, 23:50:17 UTC

I would have to disagree with you as far as your opinion that John McCain would "serve" the Republican party. I think he's proved his independence of thought from following the straight party line over most of his political career, as well as the fact that those who are the most far to the right (on the scary side) of conservatives simply don't like him ( ... )

sprootles February 9 2008, 00:00:26 UTC

"I think there's a bridge in Brooklyn for sale"That was a very uncalled for remark when I was trying to get behind exactly why you would vote for someone who would prefer us to be in Iraq for another 100 years, just because you don't like Hillary Clinton (if she even gets the nomination, which I'm not sure she will and who cares as I like Obama, too). Quite honestly, Edwards was my first choice, as well ( ... )

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