and another one bites the dust

Feb 07, 2008 15:38

Romney Suspends Campaign.

Now there's a bit of a shocker. I thought surely Huckabee or Paul would drop out first.

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bird_mom February 8 2008, 11:49:20 UTC
As excited as you are about the possibilities of a woman president or a black president, I think that if Hillary gets the Dem nomination, McCain will wipe the floor with her. She's too polarizing a figure to appeal to enough of a cross section of the country to get a majority vote. Personally, I'd rather see Obama get the nomination, despite his lack of experience, because of the fact that he has been energizing the public and getting people involved who haven't been involved before. I was having a hard time listening to Hillary's commercials citing her 35 years of experience. She's been in elected office herself all of, what, 7 years? I think it's somewhat disingenuous to include Bill's terms as her own. Or are those 35 years her time since she originally passed the bar? I dunno ( ... )

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sprootles February 8 2008, 15:00:21 UTC
So, not knowing you personally or your political affiliation, let me ask you this:

If you are a Democrat, and your man Obama doesn't get the nom, are you going to flip over and vote McCain? Because, while respect that everyone can vote for whomever they choose, that really terrifies me.

It doesn't matter what McCain's personal views are, he is serving the Republican party. That's the problem with the "party" system in the U.S. in my opinion.

I think Democrats, whether they like Hilary or not, should consider that if they flip over to McCain (should Hilary get the nom), we're back to at least four more years of a Bush style presidency.

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bird_mom February 8 2008, 23:50:17 UTC
I would have to disagree with you as far as your opinion that John McCain would "serve" the Republican party. I think he's proved his independence of thought from following the straight party line over most of his political career, as well as the fact that those who are the most far to the right (on the scary side) of conservatives simply don't like him ( ... )

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sprootles February 9 2008, 00:00:26 UTC
"I think there's a bridge in Brooklyn for sale"That was a very uncalled for remark when I was trying to get behind exactly why you would vote for someone who would prefer us to be in Iraq for another 100 years, just because you don't like Hillary Clinton (if she even gets the nomination, which I'm not sure she will and who cares as I like Obama, too). Quite honestly, Edwards was my first choice, as well ( ... )

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plumapen February 9 2008, 05:22:19 UTC
Don't worry about "spamming"; see my reply to Canute about being a political junkie. I like political conversations, even if they get a little heated. I really wish I was teaching this semester, I'd be working the election process to death with my students right now.

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plumapen February 9 2008, 05:45:58 UTC
Actually, it isn't the possibility about having a woman or an African American as president that's exciting me, or at least not completely. What really has me excited is to see how many people are out and talking about the campaigns, especially among the young voters (this comes from teaching to this age group and seeing how disenfranchised the 18-29 yr olds have felt in the past). I've also been disillusioned by having to choose from the lesser of two evils for too damn long and this year I really feel like there are candidates that are worthwhile and, quite frankly, we're going to need someone with gumption, vision, and resolve to get some very difficult things done in the next 4-8 yrs ( ... )

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Part One bird_mom February 9 2008, 23:09:02 UTC
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Part Two bird_mom February 9 2008, 23:13:50 UTC
Having said that, I also agree with your opinion of Obama holding his own against McCain. Last Monday, MSNBC did one of those comparison polls, where if the final matchup was Hillary vs. McCain, he won. If it was Obama vs. McCain, Obama won. So there might just be a hint of a light at the end of the tunnel, but again, I don't want to get my hopes up ( ... )

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