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Nov 12, 2008 08:53

This made me a little teary. I can't believe what a weenie I am.

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I've got an idea. How about those people who are denied the right to marry and extend benefits to their significant others just don't pay any more state taxes? How can you tax someone who does not receive the same benefits that every other (hetero) taxpayer receives? I think this ( Read more... )

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umbrellaofdoom November 12 2008, 14:15:38 UTC
I hadn't seen that before. Damn, that was powerful. I've always really liked Olbermann in the clips I've seen before, but that one is right there at the top. He has a great way of putting things in a way that even those blinded by their prejudices have to feel SOMETHING. And if they don't... well... I pity them.

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pixxers November 12 2008, 14:51:58 UTC
It was really powerful. And I agree: anyone who hears this message and doesn't feel the need to re-evaluate themselves has no heart.

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meritjubet November 12 2008, 14:16:05 UTC
*fails at not thinking mean things* Oh well, nothing new there.

Maybe you can sneak her into the cage and 'lose' the key?

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pixxers November 12 2008, 14:52:37 UTC
Maybe I can just tell her she's an ignorant fuck. Because that's really what I'd like to say.

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ryuaka November 13 2008, 05:19:12 UTC
Maybe you should.
But with a Smile on your face.

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karadin November 12 2008, 14:17:53 UTC
When I talk to people who say 'I don't believe in gay marriage' and I pick their argument apart, what they are really arguing about is semantics, they have an issue with the word 'marriage' - they would be fine with gay 'civil unions' because marriage has a religious connotation to them to which I say, crap. Call it union, call it marriage, the word doesn't matter, just the rights - and whatever meanings that couple chose to place on their union.

My husband who was raised Catholic said this once, and I reminded him we had a civil ceremony, cos I don't believe in org. religion, and I said, so is the civil less than the religious? and he said no, that's the thing, some people have a knee jerk reaction to the 'gay' and don't think their arguments through.

I say call everything marriage, and if gay couples can't have the same benefits as straight couples, don't give anyone benefits, if marriage is a personal choice, why is the government supporting it?

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pixxers November 12 2008, 14:58:26 UTC
I have found, in talking to people who strongly oppose gay marriage, that it's rarely a money issue. For instance, most conservatives will argue against socialism and that's the real basis for their opposition. Basically, they don't want to contribute funds to extend benefits to more 'minorities' than they already do. Consequently, these people don't support outreach, welfare, universal healthcare, etc. I think in most cases this is a selfish outlook, but to some extent, I can see their point. I don't necessarily agree with it, but I understand their reasoning ( ... )

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yuki_scorpio November 12 2008, 15:31:42 UTC
Everything that is fucked up in our world stems from religious fanaticism.

I need to print that out, put it in a frame and hang it up in my house.

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karadin November 12 2008, 16:40:54 UTC
I guess anything that makes you feel you are a unique and special snowflake is enough to make some people follow blindly?

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kashewmoo November 12 2008, 14:19:51 UTC
I just can't wrap my mind around this. It's difficult to look at this situation as I am - a non-American living in a country where same-sex marriage is legalized in every province, but yet completely emotionally invested in this as my partner is American and this could, potentially, affect our future together ( ... )

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pixxers November 12 2008, 15:07:45 UTC
Neither can I, Whit. Neither can I. The issue here - if you really want to get to the bottom of it - is religion. People feel this way and act this way because they think it's what they're supposed to feel if they plan to be a good Christian. And, somewhere along the way, being a good Christian makes you a good American.

I'm not religious, so my views are not obscured by any beliefs that I've inherited. To me, this is a common sense issue and rarely does religion = common sense.

I find it ridiculous that laws are made and enforced based on beliefs and opinions that are, at the heart, entirely subjective. This is a good indication of how uncivilised we really are.

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shikishi November 12 2008, 14:57:40 UTC
I believe you already know what my comment to this will be.

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pixxers November 12 2008, 15:08:07 UTC
Yes I do. Thank you for being you.

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shikishi November 12 2008, 15:14:01 UTC
meh.

I feel like writing today. or going back to bed.

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