Rewatching the X-Men movies

Aug 19, 2011 13:11

(I opened up this entry window then stared at it for a while as had forgotten what I was going to write about. XD ( Read more... )

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labingi August 19 2011, 22:31:35 UTC
I share a lot of your feelings about the X-Men films, but I really like Jean in the first couple of movies. I do agree, though, that Moira is boring.

What Star Trek essay is this?

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petronia August 20 2011, 05:16:38 UTC
This one!

I think Moira could have been interesting (after all she was the only representative of humanity there for a while), but they clearly decided that if they were going to cut, they would start there. ^^; Perhaps - IIRC there were similar edits made to Trek AOS - if she'd been developed more and sympathetically, the ending would have seemed correspondingly more/too horrible. Cognitive dissonance and all that (I have a friend who thinks it should have ended with Charles sitting in his wheelchair alone, staring into space unmoving for 30 seconds. McAvoy might have been game but something tells me the producers wouldn't have gone for it. XD;)

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labingi August 21 2011, 04:50:16 UTC
I would have liked that ending to XMFC:)

Thanks for the Star Trek essay link! I haven't read the whole essay yet, but I read a good portion of it. It actually makes me miss reading formal literary criticism. It makes a lot of thought-provoking connections between ST and various literary and cultural theories. I agree with a lot of it re. bourgeois hegemonic discourse, though on the whole, the parts I read suffer from not addressing counterarguments and from some rather brief assertions of connection between a theory and ST without much exploration/exemplification. Still, it's an intriguing read. Thanks.

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petronia August 22 2011, 21:06:25 UTC
I've had someone on FB comment that "as a Marxist scholar" he disagreed with some of the conclusions; not being a Marxist scholar (or a massively-invested Trekkie) all I can say for it is that it's an interesting take. It does seem to lack counterarguments, rather, though apparently the essay was originally published in a leftist zine, so. XD;

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sub_divided August 20 2011, 00:24:37 UTC
"Leacockian"?

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petronia August 20 2011, 05:27:51 UTC
I dunno why I feel that connection, exactly. XD; It just seems to me like the srs bzns of Logan is obvious, whereas the hilarity of Logan is subtler and less definable and probably the saving grace of the character.

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sub_divided August 25 2011, 06:51:50 UTC
Is it because Hugh Jackman has that twinkle in his eye? Or is it because Logan trained as Samurai in Japan before he got amnesia as part of a secret American military project to create the ultimate soldier?

Cause like, the "ultimate fanboy" ness of Logan's backstory, combined with him being originally from Canada, is pretty funny.

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petronia August 25 2011, 13:48:09 UTC
Yeah, Wolverine II (if they ever manage to make it) is supposed to be set in Japan, so I'll be very disappointed if they don't have Logan fighting a uniformed schoolgirl with katanas. And then there was that legendary fanart of him eating takoyaki speared off one adamantine claw.

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reynardine August 20 2011, 11:07:07 UTC
I always had a hard time watching the Xmen movies--not because they were bad (they were quite good) but because the actor playing Scott looked exactly like my brother-in-law Russ. I mean, even his voice. They could have been twins. It always distracted me.

Fortunately, Russ has a sense of humor about the whole thing.

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petronia August 20 2011, 13:59:14 UTC
...Excellent Halloween costume opportunity? XD

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