Why Charlotte Pollard Pwns Rose Tyler (Spoilers!)

[persiflage_1]

Who_Daily Link: < a href="http://persiflage-1.livejournal.com/303475.html">Why Charlotte Pollard Pwns Rose Tyler by < lj user=persiflage_1> (Spoilers for Charley's audios, including Patient Zero, Paper Cuts & Blue Forgotten Planet)

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[persiflage_1]

If the mods are going to be ready to step in if people start getting ugly. (After all, here, I can control who comments and who doesn't...)

[persiflage_1]

All right, I'll go and cross-post...

[abstruse_fangrl]

For Charley, the most important thing is that the Doctor gets on with his life - she understands that the Doctor's world doesn't revolve around her, no matter how much she loves him, not even though he loves her in return.

That right there is the essence of what it means to be the Doctor's companion. You look after him when no else does, and you sacrifice the chance of traveling with him if that's what it comes down to. Charley did it so the Doctor could go on protecting the universe; in Nu!Who, Martha & Jack do it so that they can go on protecting the Earth.

Being the Doctor's companion means understanding that the right thing to do to keep the universe safe isn't often going to be the thing that makes you happy. And the one lesson that everyone learns from the get-go with the Doctor is that nothing lasts forever. You accept what you have while you have it, and you let it go when it's time to move on.

It's a lesson Rose still needs to learn.Indeed. I think that's part of why the Doctor left his human counterpart with her: he knew

[abstruse_fangrl]

Thanks! :-)

I think that the Doctor knew Rose well enough to know that if he didn't leave her with something, she was just going to keep coming back through and trying to find him.

As persiflage_1 mentioned in her post, even when Rose was warned about the dangers of doing so, she still decided to come through. On the one hand I can understand trying to warn the Doctor, but on the other hand, it would have made sense for her to try and contact the UNIT or Torchwood of this world (or as is mentioned in the post SJS) as an alternative to breaking through the dimensional barriers. I'd think that knowing the dangers of the canon, it should have been a last last last resort...

Poor Handy.Exactly

[persiflage_1]

That right there is the essence of what it means to be the Doctor's companion. You look after him when no else does, and you sacrifice the chance of traveling with him if that's what it comes down to. Charley did it so the Doctor could go on protecting the universe; in Nu!Who, Martha & Jack do it so that they can go on protecting the Earth.

Exactly! Look at Midnight - he didn't have Donna or anyone else to watch his back, and he was nearly killed by a bunch of terrified humans. In the Whoniverse, the Doctor's the (flawed) hero and so everything revolves around him and his role.

Being the Doctor's companion means understanding that the right thing to do to keep the universe safe isn't often going to be the thing that makes you happy. And the one lesson that everyone learns from the get-go with the Doctor is that nothing lasts forever. You accept what you have while you have it, and you let it go when it's time to move on.

Everyone except Rose...

Indeed. I think that's part of why the Doctor left his human counterpart with her: he

Re: Kudos.

[persiflage_1]

Yes - Harriet Jones did what she believed was right in the circumstances - and then continued to do the right thing (ie working on the subwave network), despite the Doctor's petulance and poor treatment of her.

RTD LOVES the fact that Rose is so selfish and self-centred. He practically gloated about it during one of the S4 confidentials!

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[ziggychaos]

RTD LOVES the fact that Rose is so selfish and self-centred. He practically gloated about it during one of the S4 confidentials!

WTF?!

Rose could NOT have handled walking the Earth like Martha did!! That was so unselfish of any of his companions, including those that died for him, because she was the only one who experienced the misery ON Earth during the Master's reign and remembered it after the year turned back. Not many people could have done that.

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[persiflage_1]

WTF?!

I know, it's mind-boggling, isn't it? He seemed to think this made her a better companion than anyone else!

Rose could NOT have handled walking the Earth like Martha did!! That was so unselfish of any of his companions, including those that died for him, because she was the only one who experienced the misery ON Earth during the Master's reign and remembered it after the year turned back. Not many people could have done that.

I know. Rose would've been whinging within a week of starting her trek. Martha went through Hell for a year - I can barely imagine how horrendous it must have been for her, to suffer along with the rest of humanity - and *knowing* that if she hadn't drawn Yana's attention to his fobwatch, the Master wouldn't have come back... (I do wonder if she saw that trek as her penance for her mistake?)

[tardis_mafia]

*Stands and applauds*

Sadly I haven't heard any BF audios with Charley, but she sounds like a damn good companion (although I think just about anyone is a better companion than the blond stain).

[tardis_mafia]

LOL! Yeah, I started to call her that during S4. You can partially remove the stain (sometimes), maybe from your favorite blouse, but it never really goes away. I really think everyone has a fitting nickname for her.

...since nothing seems to get her the f*** out!

No...not really. She'll never really leave us, and this saddens me.

[persiflage_1]

I can highly recommend Charley's stories as a whole. Some of the Eight & Charley ones leave a bit to be desired, but on the whole, there are some really good - even brilliant - stories available with her in them.

[mulder200]

This was just brilliant!

[persiflage_1]

Thank you!