Advice is a Dangerous Gift...

Feb 28, 2015 20:56

..even from the wise to the wise." Gildor dixit ( Read more... )

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marta_bee February 28 2015, 21:54:13 UTC
What you're saying here reminds me of the way philosophers and theologists talk about sacred texts. I know, not your meaning, but there's this idea that the ssame text will mean different things at different points for same practicer, and more so for different points and histories - and multiple points in history. All true. It's part of what I was talking about at my own LJ last night.

Which is just my way of saying, there's a grand tradition of folks feeling much the same way, going back and back and back. For whatever that's worth. :-)

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perelleth February 28 2015, 22:03:34 UTC
well, that's too much credit for my musings! But I get your meaning. There are a few books I re-read consistently, and I love how different things gain meaning at different times. I usually got caught in the "Don't go to the elves for counsel" but lately I've come to understand the pain that comes with failed advice, and it makes me smile.

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dawtheminstrel February 28 2015, 22:30:09 UTC
I miss the Tolkien muse. I miss being that obsessed with something. I miss the experience of sharing stories with other obsessed people. I have a bit of fanfic I think I'll write one of these days but it's not the same.

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perelleth March 1 2015, 16:00:37 UTC
There was a lot of creativity flowing around those Tolkien movies. I too miss that. I have sat before an unfinished story a hundred times and not been able to go beyond a few paragraphs at the time..

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dot_o_choillmor March 1 2015, 10:43:41 UTC
While I've never been a great fan of saying "told you so", I've now come to equate those words to failure. My failure to communicate my understanding of things.

Holy Moly. I have never before thought of it like that.

(I'm so stealing that. It makes total sense to me.)

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perelleth March 1 2015, 16:02:45 UTC
Hehehe. I've only realized this myself very recently.

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galantha_nivala March 1 2015, 14:41:48 UTC
You are a much nicer and more evolved person than me. I'm still at 'I told you so.' stage, (although it's more the turning away, rolling my eyes and muttering 'idjit' under my breath stage.)

Than again, I don't give advice for a living.

On another note, giving advice is dangerous because it can put you at blame when the advice you give doesn't work.

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perelleth March 1 2015, 16:07:51 UTC
Of course there's the danger that people will follow your advice and then put the blame on you, and I had always taken Gildor's words in that sense, how aloof and separate from mortals the elves themselves are.

But there's saturation in everything. Too many "told you so"s and you won't find any dark glee in it anymore. Instead there's sadness there, world-weariness, in knowing that most times things are doomed to failure because our inability to accept and follow advice.

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