We are definitely not watching the same show

[percysowner]

For the record this He`s [Sam]  always needed to be the centre of Dean`s life, as we saw in the 8th season finale. And like most things, there`s positives and negatives to the fact that he always has been. I expect both aspects to get their due in the coming fall out. Is not a description of Sam in Supernatural.  It is 100% diametrically opposed to

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[pocochina]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Like. Sam has made Dean the center of Sam's life, at significant cost to himself, and then he gets told at every turn that he's not only extraneous but a burden. Wanting not to feel that way is nowhere near the same as "needing" to be in the center of someone's life.

[percysowner]

I know, right! The poster is going on and on about how we know Dean has NEVER judged Sam. He was briefly angry at Sam for "almost killing him" and going with Ruby and then Bobby told him to let it go and he let it go. And how Sam didn't understand that Dean was just needling him all season and didn't mean it or to make him feel bad. And that Sam wants space from Dean but doesn't want Dean to have space from him and that last season Sam didn't want autonomy from Dean. And I can't EVEN! There is no point to responding there but we are really seeing this differently and she is definitely seeing it through Dean's ideal of himself as the sacrifer and Sam as the bad brother who doesn't know what he wants and who is I don't even know, I can't get my mind around it. Like I said, they are seeing things I'm not seeing.

[mekina]

NEVER JUDGED SAM HA FUCKING HA FUCKING HA (bitter laughter.)

Like he judged him for wanting to make something of himself by going to Stanford? Like he judged him for wanting to be safe and have a normal life? Like he judged him for falling apart and wanting revenge for Dean's MURDER (which he was fucking FORCED TO WATCH)? And for (accidentally) letting Lucifer free? And for again falling apart and clinging to an anchor (Amelia) and normal just so he didn't self destruct after losing Dean again? And the way Dean has promised repeatedly that bygones will be bygones, yet keeps on fucking bringing up Sam's mistakes? Four seasons later!!!!

I love Dean, but he's not some fucking flawless saint. Neither is Sam, but some fans seem all too willing to point out Sam's mistakes and completely gloss over the shit Dean has done.

[bowtrunckle]

What the heck? *recoils in horror* Where did that part in italics come from? Apparently I'm totally out of the SPN loop now.

[percysowner]

It was from a review of this week's episode on Winchester Family Business, which is usually pretty balanced. This one came from out of left field.

[killabeez]

My frowny face could not be more frowny.

[mekina]

DAFUQ

[blackjedii]

Admittedly that's kind of a mild Sam-diss from Alice Jester. She's done far nastier.