"I babbled incoherently."

[pepper_field]

I'm not going to do the whole Stargate meme currently going around, because my answers are so similar to a lot of other people's that I can't be bothered (*g*), but I had a couple of thoughts, which I shall now tell you. Aren't you lucky?

I've noticed that most (all?) people seem to be choosing to be Tok'ra rather than Jaffa, and that interested me

Comments

[crazedturkey]

I was thinking about this too...

You know why I think the Tok'ra are more popular? Because they're cooler. They've got that mysterious power edge thing going that the Jaffa don't have.

I mean the Jaffa are cool too, but even post-Rebellion they're a bit powereless aren't they?

Hero's is also one of my favourites. For all the reasons you mention. I didn't do the quiz because I have so many!! Hero's and Lost City, which I love, because its so teamy and good and Upgrades and Window of Opportunity and Divide and COnquer because its Jack and Sam and Martouf and gah and the Tok'ra because its Jacob and Sam...and OMG. I love my show :p

[pepper_field]

Yeah, the Jaffa are generally more followers than leaders, except for the odd few like Teal'c, Bra'tac, and whatsisname played by Isaac Hayes. It's been conditioned into them, I guess - I can see why people wouldn't choose that. But the Tok'ra have a lot of bad points, too. They're highly political, and deeply paranoid, and don't seem to trust one another, never mind outsiders. And Tok'ra fashion is hideous... *g*

My favourite episode never stays put. All those ones you mention - yes. Love them all for different reasons and different moments.

[vickyocean]

Y'know, I was thinking Jaffa myself. The Tok'ra are very... tiresome to me. I think I'm with Jack and his opinion of the Tok'ra. The Jaffa look after each other and the Tok'ra have no problem cutting out on their on people. That's not a crowd I'd want to hang with

[pepper_field]

Mm. I wouldn't feel safe amongst the Tok'ra. Never homely, never alone... no doors. I'd hate that. :) The Jaffa, though - well, if it was post-rebellion, that would be okay. Before that, though, there's a worryingly high chance of being randomly sent to die by a Goa'uld.

The guy who played Bregman is one of those actors that I know I've seen around - the Vancouver pool again. I've not seen Nero Wolfe, so it's not that... but something... I thought he was fantastic, in being irritating and invasive at first, and then coming round to being believably sincere and passionate. And I loved the little bit with him and Janet - it was so understated, but so clear.

Yeah, though - Dixon and his tirade about having four kids was just fantastic. Hee. I just adore the glimpse we get into everyones lives in that ep - the relaxed way SG-13 interact, it did feel like a proper team, and not just "pretend we all know each other really well, starting now."

[suzannemarie]

He's been in lots of stuff. I don't know if you ever watched Frasier, but if you did, he was Daphne's fiance for awhile.

[pepper_field]

Hm. I only watched Frasier sporadically, so it's possible... I've probably just seen him in various things, and he only really properly registered in my brain when I saw this.

Cute dog. :)

[aurora_novarum]

Mine was just the reaction of not wanting my gut sliced open and having some creature twirling around in it. For some reason, the neck thing is more palatable.

(Yeah, I'm no good with needles either).

I mean, I'd be a Tok'ra if it could be someone cool like Selmak, and you could do the eye flange and work a healing device.

Some stuck up twit like Malek? Not so much.

I agree that Heroes is well acted, I just will never forgive them for the bait/switch craziness in killing Janet, since I was unspoiled.

[pepper_field]

Oh, god - imagine being stuck with a really annoying symbiote. A lot Some of them are pretty loathesome, and almost all of them have that very cold, calculating, long-term view that I just don't think I could like.

Aw! See, I was already spoilered when I watched Heroes, so I knew who was going to die - I wonder what my perspective on it would be, if I hadn't known? Then again, I like that sort of thing - I like the high drama and angst of killing off a dearly beloved character, so I'd probably still have liked it. Even though I wish Janet was still around, because she's so damn good, and there's so much they could still have done with her.

Please feel free to skip if you've heard my Heroes rant already...

[aurora_novarum]

But when you don't know which one? It's torture. I'm not a big fan of the surprise/"hook" beginning with a mystery to find out what brought you to this point. (I don't like "Meridian" partly for that reason too.)

Jack was obviously a red herring (hello? Name above the credits!) But, I mean, we only saw Sam at the beginning. And then Daniel finally popped up. Do you realize we don't see Teal'c until around the half-way point of the show? (At least after twenty minutes).

So I wasn't paying attention to what was happening in the show because I was just doing a mental checklist of characters. When it was finally revealed. I totally did a..."oh, they killed Janet. WTF?! They killed JANET! You bastards! And why didn't you just SAY that in the first place!"

As you may note, I'm still harboring a tiny bit of resentment over this. ;-)

Re: Please feel free to skip if you've heard my Heroes rant already...

[pepper_field]

A little bit of resentment, yes... ;)

I tend to go with the flow with programmes - rarely do I bother to keep up with the plot (which is why redial has been such a revelation to me - and probably why I stopped enjoying X-Files). I can totally see how that would be utterly distracting. Aw.

[abyssinia4077]

Heroes isn't my favorite episode, but it's really high up there for exactly the reason you gave (I love Daniel making the camera crew run after him and, really, every moment you mentioned). I have one quibble at the end that as much as the ending montage thing is good, I really, really wanted a teamy moment SO BAD (at the very least, someone on the team comforting Daniel) and I felt it hurt the episode a bit not to have that. I wanted to see them together the night after the funeral just...being there with each other.

As for the Tok'ra vs. Jaffa thing - it's interesting. In a way you're a slave to the Goa'uld either way - either having to dedicate your life to serving them or to destroying them.

And thank you!

[pepper_field]

"I wanted to see if you'd chase me." Hee - Daniel has a sneakily evil sense of humour, really.

Yeah, a teamy moment would have been nice. Well, it was followed shortly afterwards by Lost City, which was very teamy, so I can forgive that. I think I'm so used to Stargate not doing the after-effects, I kind of mentally insert them. "And then, of course, they all went to Jack's and he made Teal'c do the barbeque because he was injured and Sam and Daniel can't cook worth a damn, or so they claim, and they all sat around and drank Guinness and didn't have to tell each other how much they cared because they already knew."

Given the option, I wouldn't be Tok'ra OR Jaffa. That's Plan C. *g* They do rather live their lives around the Goa'uld, don't they?

[holdouttrout]

Hmmm...I picked the Tok'ra because I think the *idea* of them is cool. However, you Jaffa people make a good argument...

And Heroes is a great ep. Awesome.

[pepper_field]

Mm. I'm not entirely averse to the idea of a symbiote - I wouldn't exactly be jumping at the idea, but I wouldn't be turning it down if I were dying of Ancient plague. It would very much depend on what that symbiote is like, though. I guess they do have kind of a vetting system set up for that - when it's not an emergency.