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Jul 24, 2011 11:38

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[Hi guys. You know what Tim is not going to do? Talk about Bruce or Steph or Wally or Conner. Well maybe a little later. But right now he's kind of pissed and feeling all those angry clingy feelings teenagers feel when someone else shows interest in someone they've known longer.]On June 13th, Bourne showed us what his inmate, David ( Read more... )

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onefullmoony July 24 2011, 18:16:23 UTC
...Someone used transfiguration as punishment? That's torture. Is the boy alright?

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peektuttut July 24 2011, 20:42:52 UTC
Would you be?

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onefullmoony July 24 2011, 21:21:03 UTC
Of course not.

And reading what else you've posted, I can see it's different that the transfiguration in my world. That is what I'd thought I'd might be able to help with.

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peektuttut July 24 2011, 21:22:32 UTC
He's human again. It's the after effects and the fact that Bourne was getting away with it that concerns me.

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Warden Filter paradoxlol July 24 2011, 18:47:14 UTC
If that's the whole story... How the hell are they still paired?

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Warden Filter peektuttut July 24 2011, 20:43:52 UTC
When has the Admiral looked after the best interests of anybody on this boat? He leaves it to us to take care of, and no one knew.

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Warden Filter peektuttut July 24 2011, 20:45:40 UTC
His warden forced him to morph a rat and took away his ability to turn back. Take a guess at the damage. [Tim's slightly leery of giving away everything. He's pretty positive David will be wrathful about this. :\]

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Warden Filter peektuttut July 24 2011, 21:14:30 UTC
[He should just link to that response, probably.]

No. He didn't go to anyone about it, not anyone who would act, anyway, and he didn't mean to tell me. I'm doing what I can. [i.e. threatening Bourne. :|]

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[Warden Filter] timesbureaucrat July 24 2011, 19:28:29 UTC
I have some questions on this morphing process before I pass any judgement, since I, like most here, know nothing about how it works. [Narvin is a little bit bitter about all the knee-jerk horror to telepathy that's been going around, since psychic interrogation is normal CIA procedure for him. He thinks the humans are reacting in fear to things they don't get. Because of his history, he knows he can't respond to those, but he'll respond to this.]

First, I'd like to understand how Bourne made David morph. Second, I'd like it clearly explained how it's torture. I'm not denying that it might be, but since this morphing is something that David does on his own accord fairly frequently, I'd like to understand why this is different, beyond the fact that it was imposed on him. (As, after all, I'm sure no one would object if a warden ordered an inmate who already runs a mile a day to...say...run five miles. Ordering an inmate to run fifty miles would be an entirely different story, but I don't know enough about this process to say ( ... )

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[Warden Filter] peektuttut July 24 2011, 20:50:29 UTC
I want you to go back and look at this post. Bourne turned a gun on his inmate and made him morph to show us what he could do. I think if the choice is die or morph, he's going to morph.

[And a pause, because this means pretty much throwing David's life out for all and sundry to see. But it's a short pause. Protecting him is better.] The way it works [Tim's. Done some reading. :\ Sorry David.] is he can morph into animals they've touched, for two hours. After two hours, they can't change back. Before coming to the barge, he was tricked into morphing a rat, and trapped somewhere he couldn't change back. It had to have been in his file, and Bourne recreated it. It's not a question of fair and balanced punishment, it's taking a specific and scarring moment from his inmate's history and inflicting it on him again.

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[Warden Filter] timesbureaucrat July 24 2011, 21:54:24 UTC
That puts a different, and troubling context to the situation, thank you. I'd still like to hear from Bourne before coming to a hasty conclusion. He presumably understands his inmate and his inmate's issues better than the rest of us and perhaps has an explanation.

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[Warden Filter] peektuttut July 24 2011, 21:57:48 UTC
Of course..

And in the event he doesn't, something has to be done.

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[Warden Filter] notiaraincluded July 24 2011, 19:47:35 UTC
So...aside from the fact that I assume this guy didn't want to be a rat, how is this an example of torture rather than a punishment? I mean, he apparently had his Warden overpowered and held hostage while abusing a power he had to impersonate that same Warden.

Seems to me that taking that same abused power and using it as a sort of punishment makes perfect sense.

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[Warden Filter] peektuttut July 24 2011, 20:51:23 UTC
Check out what I just told Narvin. Makes more sense than explaining myself every time.

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[Warden Filter] notiaraincluded July 24 2011, 22:02:34 UTC
[And a minute or two later.]

Okay. My point still stands. It's not like he just did this shit out of boredom. What sort of punishment would you have suggested that was equal to what he did?

And don't say "anything but that". That's a cop out. If this was a case of torture, why wouldn't this guy have said something himself?

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[Warden Filter] peektuttut July 25 2011, 01:06:55 UTC
Taking away his ability to morph - while leaving him human - in addition to time in zero would have been more than adequate. There were other options that Bourne could have taken, but didn't. Look at the post. You saw he was angry. [That's pretty telling, for Tim.]

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