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Jul 24, 2011 11:38

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[Hi guys. You know what Tim is not going to do? Talk about Bruce or Steph or Wally or Conner. Well maybe a little later. But right now he's kind of pissed and feeling all those angry clingy feelings teenagers feel when someone else shows interest in someone they've known longer.]On June 13th, Bourne showed us what his inmate, David ( Read more... )

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[Warden Filter] timesbureaucrat July 24 2011, 19:28:29 UTC
I have some questions on this morphing process before I pass any judgement, since I, like most here, know nothing about how it works. [Narvin is a little bit bitter about all the knee-jerk horror to telepathy that's been going around, since psychic interrogation is normal CIA procedure for him. He thinks the humans are reacting in fear to things they don't get. Because of his history, he knows he can't respond to those, but he'll respond to this.]

First, I'd like to understand how Bourne made David morph. Second, I'd like it clearly explained how it's torture. I'm not denying that it might be, but since this morphing is something that David does on his own accord fairly frequently, I'd like to understand why this is different, beyond the fact that it was imposed on him. (As, after all, I'm sure no one would object if a warden ordered an inmate who already runs a mile a day to...say...run five miles. Ordering an inmate to run fifty miles would be an entirely different story, but I don't know enough about this process to say whether this is comparable to that.)

In short, I see the emotive word "torture" being tossed about rather casually, and if Bourne *is* torturing his inmate that's obviously a problem. But I for one don't know enough about what actually happened and how this affects David physically and mentally to know whether or not that's an accurate description.

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[Warden Filter] peektuttut July 24 2011, 20:50:29 UTC
I want you to go back and look at this post. Bourne turned a gun on his inmate and made him morph to show us what he could do. I think if the choice is die or morph, he's going to morph.

[And a pause, because this means pretty much throwing David's life out for all and sundry to see. But it's a short pause. Protecting him is better.] The way it works [Tim's. Done some reading. :\ Sorry David.] is he can morph into animals they've touched, for two hours. After two hours, they can't change back. Before coming to the barge, he was tricked into morphing a rat, and trapped somewhere he couldn't change back. It had to have been in his file, and Bourne recreated it. It's not a question of fair and balanced punishment, it's taking a specific and scarring moment from his inmate's history and inflicting it on him again.

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[Warden Filter] timesbureaucrat July 24 2011, 21:54:24 UTC
That puts a different, and troubling context to the situation, thank you. I'd still like to hear from Bourne before coming to a hasty conclusion. He presumably understands his inmate and his inmate's issues better than the rest of us and perhaps has an explanation.

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[Warden Filter] peektuttut July 24 2011, 21:57:48 UTC
Of course..

And in the event he doesn't, something has to be done.

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