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onkel_hans November 18 2013, 15:27:18 UTC
I am afraid it is trivial but for me, of the paramount importance are the eyes.

A have a friend who is a cross-breed of a Mongol and a Swede. She is cross-eyed and her face is round and flat like a frying pan. Her hair is curly and grey. The first week I could not look into her eyes. But later got used to the appearance. She is a brilliant mind. Highly educated and cultured. She is a pleasure to socialize with. And now her eyes look bright and beautiful for me.

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peacetraveler22 November 18 2013, 16:22:12 UTC
Of course people grow on you after time such that you find beauty where it did not initially exist. Normal reaction. I once dated a guy who could be a model, but this is the person to which I was least attracted of all my boyfriends. He wasn't curious about things, a sort of beautiful vegetable existing in life. Of course, looks are often the initial attracting factor but for me the endurance of relations based only on this quality is very, very short. Men are more adept at tolerating bad traits to have a beautiful woman by their side and in bed.

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pasha1980 November 19 2013, 12:28:31 UTC
Haha, I have a similar story: I once dated a physically beautiful girl who was like a model. I don't know why I did it because I knew right away she was very superficial. I guess I was just curious to get an insight into that world. Anyway, about two weeks after the first date we had sex (the rule of thumb here for the girl is to wait for two weeks, then have sex so as not to come across as too accessible :) and the sex wasn't very good. The next day she called me and asked me to give her some money for a bathing suit because she was going on vacation to the Black Sea. This was where our relationship ended.

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peacetraveler22 November 19 2013, 15:07:04 UTC
In my experience, really good looking people have less personality because they are accustomed to having everything handed to them, especially on the attention front. They don't have to work as hard as average looking people in most areas of life - the dating game, career advancement, etc. So, being beautiful has its advantages. :)

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qi_tronic November 18 2013, 15:56:57 UTC
Real_marsel will like you :))

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peacetraveler22 November 18 2013, 16:35:19 UTC
Real_marsel is cute! Common problem faced by women. Good looking guys who are 100% gay, interesting and kind.

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qi_tronic November 18 2013, 16:56:43 UTC
"
Good looking guys who are 100% gay, interesting and kind.
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Because they are closer to women.

There was an interesting picture in an article in lenta. ru a while ago.
Generally the article was pro-gay but that picture, a an MRT image, showed that gays have female-type brain activity in some areas. And vice-versa, lesbians have male-type activity.

So, they are naturally closer to the ideal that women want to see :))

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k_netalie November 18 2013, 15:46:11 UTC
i absolutely agree with you about all types of love advises. everything should go its natural way, i believe. and about all the other points too.
as for my perfect man - i used to have some pictures in my head, but now i really don't know. i believe i'll feel it when i meet him. but frankly speaking, after my unhappy marriage i can hardly imagine someone next to me.

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peacetraveler22 November 18 2013, 16:26:36 UTC
"Pictures in my head" - me too when I was younger but not now. Sometimes it's good to be alone!

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k_netalie November 18 2013, 18:33:54 UTC
i'm asked so frequently why i'm alone and how i can stay alone and not to find someone. i usually answer that i'm not looking for and he'll find himself (literally))) but the longer i'm staying alone the more difficult it seems to build new relationship, the more often i ask myself if i need it at all and for what. i'm ok. i don't feel alone, i feel free. besides i have kids, they fill my life to the full.

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peacetraveler22 November 18 2013, 18:38:30 UTC
I haven't had a boyfriend in almost six years, so I understand! I'm used to being alone, and lots of family, cousins and my nephew keep me busy on weekends.

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qi_tronic November 18 2013, 15:55:53 UTC
There is still difference between men and women... even when reading you.
You are on a more rational side, not dreaming about princes, but still you are thinkng first about being in relations, but men, as I believe, are thinking first about achievements.

Like here. Taming of fire:
www. youtube. com/watch?v=9V0WBAb0BRg

What men need from women, besides sex and cooking :), is emotional support and balance.
I a woman is an intelligent person and as such can listen to my bright ideas with her mouth open, it's a bonus :)))

If we are talking about physical appearance and marriage then I can say I developed a "male offspring test" a while ago:
For example you like like a woman looks.
Then imagine that you have a son with almost the same face (sons often inherit their looks from mothers).
If you like what you see then it is OK :)

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peacetraveler22 November 18 2013, 16:34:12 UTC
Emotional support and balance, women need this from men also. It's the same for both genders. A woman is an "achievement", I don't understand this concept? I like this article from today. Normally this forum is way too radical for my liking but this post is good. http://feministki.livejournal.com/3116028.html. In some ways, I'm like the woman described here. Exception: I'm not calm from relatively long periods w/out sex. This the worst torture for me, creating some type of hysteria both mentally and physically.

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qi_tronic November 18 2013, 17:06:38 UTC
I mean, generally men are more targeted to achieve or conquer something, this is not about women only.
This statement number 4 :)

They not necessarily stand for the oppressed (but some do, like Fidel or Che Guevara) but need to have something real in life to be happy, something to say "I have done it!".

In Russia we say (maybe it's not a Russian saying only) that a man has to do 3 things in life: plant a tree, build a house and rise a son.
So, generally, something to leave behind after him.

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peacetraveler22 November 18 2013, 17:27:59 UTC
"Plant a tree, build a house and raise a son," we have no similar English expression.

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Бог услышал твои молитвы andrey_kaminsky November 18 2013, 17:22:12 UTC
If I could create the perfect man he would be intelligent, open minded, creative, humorous, kind, adventurous, and most importantly, flexible(с)
I possess all these qualities, except that I'm not flexible enough, yoga is not one of my hobbies and I can't put legs behind my head as you perhaps like:(
And by the way, this flexibility is necessary for the exercise of sexual fantasies, or to save on tickets while traveling by tucking the frend in the luggage:)

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Re: Бог услышал твои молитвы peacetraveler22 November 18 2013, 17:25:30 UTC
I'm speaking about a different kind of flexibility, and you know it! :) This is all you have to say? You don't want to give me your thesis on relationships, or tell me once again men and women can't be friends?

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Re: Бог услышал твои молитвы andrey_kaminsky November 18 2013, 18:32:05 UTC
My thesis on the relationship is no less wise than the Bible, and for this reason, it takes the same volume. One of the chapters of this book argues that excessive talkativeness is a disadvantage for the person. But another chapter argues: if this person has the appearance of Deborah Kerr in her youth, she can afford to utter any nonsense.
Men and women can be friends, why not, but it is only an imitation, replacement of full relations. Imitation can't be the goal, but only a temporary substitute for a time, until the goal is reached.

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Re: Бог услышал твои молитвы peacetraveler22 November 18 2013, 18:40:16 UTC
Thank you, wise philosopher. :) Who is Deborah Kerr, never heard of her?? I googled her image and she's lovely. I like red/auburn hair on women if it's the natural color. Unusual and striking. Yes, men put up with much more bullshit when a woman is exceptionally beautiful.

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