Ah, waking up...

Dec 03, 2008 11:56

I love it how Liberal America or at least, the more leftist elements of it, is slowly starting to realize that it just might not be true that Obama is the messiah ( Read more... )

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the_euphemist December 3 2008, 20:40:22 UTC
and while people are beginning to realize he isn't the messiah, the neocons are still convinced he's the antichrist. as least the gun market is booming.

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pdxkate December 4 2008, 01:25:22 UTC
guns for everyone!

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daland December 3 2008, 20:55:02 UTC
the clinton era, mixed bag as it was, now looks like halcyon days.

anyway, it is a bit premature to judge the obama administration before it even begins. the pool of democrats (liberals/progressives, if you will) with cabinet-level resumes is pretty small, as only eight of the last twenty-eight years had a (D) administration.

i mean, if people were expecting a combination of eugene debs and bob lafollette their expectations were a little high, sure. but this is a chance to start moving the overton window left again after eight years (arguably, fourteen. or more!) of a reflexive backlash against all things progressive.

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pdxkate December 4 2008, 01:27:15 UTC
"anyway, it is a bit premature to judge the obama administration before it even begins"
You have a point for sure, and it's still refreshing to see a anti-conservative backlash after the last fucking fourteen, but... I worked damn hard not to get my hopes up when everyone was flipping out over this man and I'm feeling a lot less enthusiastic now.

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jlina December 3 2008, 21:28:57 UTC
a few things. To start, you keep using variations on the phrase "Obama the messiah." To the best of my knowledge, that is a Republican talking point. Rational people do not perceive politicians to be holy figures. So, are you a Republican trying to convince people that their belief in Obama's desire to fix things is a sign of irrationality, or do you really believe that more moderate members of the leftist movement based their votes for this man on a hysterical faith ( ... )

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pdxkate December 4 2008, 01:24:42 UTC
Well I've been reading a lot of Andrea Smith so the only responses I feel like mustering at the moment might come off as somewhat dismissive. I posted this in response to some murmuring on Common Dreams and other places about how Obama may not be quite the environmentalist that many leftist groups were making him out to be. My response is not meant so much to open a dialogue about the finer points of obama but to sigh in the face of what I percieve to be naivete on the part of folk on the left ( ... )

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lucyindeeskye December 4 2008, 06:00:33 UTC
+1. My thoughts exactly. It's just a relief to have a figurehead who isn't an utter embarrassment when he opens his mouth.

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daddysambiguity December 3 2008, 23:52:45 UTC
Yeah, I tend to agree. I liked Obama and voted for him, but only because he was better than the other realistic alternative. I still think he's more or less the same and certainly not as leftist as he should be -- ora s I wish he were! :) Then again, if he were, I doubt he'd get enough votes to win.

:/

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