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Dean and His Deal
Why he made it, what it's done to him, and whether he'd do it again
We're coming up on the end of Dean's year, and we've had fifteen episodes to find out how he handles living under a death sentence. Before Our Darling Show closes the book on this chapter, I'd like to throw in my summary of what this arc has meant for Dean's ( Read more... )
Why he made it, what it's done to him, and whether he'd do it again
We're coming up on the end of Dean's year, and we've had fifteen episodes to find out how he handles living under a death sentence. Before Our Darling Show closes the book on this chapter, I'd like to throw in my summary of what this arc has meant for Dean's ( Read more... )
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That is an interesting question, about John knowing how demons are made, but I don't think it would have made a bit of difference. IMToD showed us that Dean was ready to let go, only John making the deal saved his life. I think John would have done it anyway.
Oh, gah, ugh, damn. Only a day away before Show rips out our hearts and stores them in the freezer until autumn.
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I figured the Boyz ruled out the Devil's Gate because of all the other stuff that will come pouring out if they crack that thing again. Plus, they'd need the Colt. Damn it, Bela, you nuisance.
Less than twenty-four hours 'til Show! I get all jittery whenever I think about it too hard.
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Daddy Winchester set the precedent.
So true. Excellent point! We learned in "DaLDoM" just how much Dean idolized John, going so far as to adopt John's music, John's leather jacket, and John's car as well as John's lifestyle (no easy feat). Imitation is the highest form of flattery. It shouldn't be surprising then that Dean would internalize bits and pieces of John's mindset and consciously or subconsciously mimic his actions.
In The Benders, Dean risked Sam instead of a “civilian.” He once pointed a gun at Sam’s head to prevent him from hurting Jo. He refused to sacrifice Nancy in the full knowledge that Sam was unlikely to survive the night.This also speaks about how much faith Dean has in Sam. I think Dean partially chose Sam to be the run away in "The Benders" because he had faith in Sam's abilities to escape. I think Dean partially pointed the gun at Sam to get him to stop and listen because Dean believed he could break through to the real Sam stuffed underneath the layers of ( ... )
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I think you're probably right that John didn't know about the demon clause, and I love what you said about "selfish self-sacrifice." It's been a theme for the Winchesters, no?
Thanks so much for reading and taking the time to comment.
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I tend to look at both of them as "the road not taken" sort of fantasies. If normal folk dream of being heroes, doesn't it make sense that on the flip side, heroes dream of being normal folk sometimes? Especially under extreme duress(and I think we can say Dean has been under extreme duress both this season and last season). Jensen was asked about the Lisa dream at LA Con I think and unfortunately I can't remember exactly the words he used but he said he didn't play the scene with the intention in mind that this is what Dean really wants.
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God, I'm so tired of this fucking Sam bashing I could puke! No-one o these guys are perfect, not by a long shot. But the more Sam is bashed, the more I'm staring to like him. And vice-versa with Dean. I so gotta leve this fandom *cackles*
Yes, Sam is evil, amoral, stupid and a bastard because he considered the solutions of a willing virgin's sacrifice. While Dean had his heart set on saving said virgin. I doubt he'd be so willing if the woman was 55 and well lain *rolls eyes* Jeez!
And we now the results of said decision, don't we? The virgin died anyhow.
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I think Sam is, at heart, more his father's son in a lot of ways than Dean - for Dean, for a long time, John was a "superhero," and I get the impression that he meant more of a Superman than a Batman. For Sam, John has always been flawed, but he nevertheless inherits John's single-mindedness and his willingness to bend the rules for the sake of the goal.
That's not bashing the character, that's discussing what's making him more morally questionable. The areas in which Dean "fails" to adhere to a societal standard are largely self-reflexive--except where they have to do with Sam. The areas where Sam "fails" to adhere to societal standards have much, much more to do with expedience.
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Zaz
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I really appreciate the read-through and the feedback. Thanks very much!
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