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orangerful

kylo ren thoughts

Apr 16, 2016 10:46

I finally got to watch my blu-ray of Force Awakens yesterday YAY!!!!!!!!! The first of many many viewings, I am sure. I feel like this one will definitely be a good "background" movie for when I'm working on stuff. I've seen it 5 times now and I think most of it is committed to memory LOL ( Read more... )

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enigmaticblues April 16 2016, 15:09:51 UTC

Have you seen this?

And I think I missed the expression on Ren's face when he was shot. I'll have to look for that the next time I watch it. I am wildly curious as to Ben Solo's background. I think he probably was fairly spoiled, and his parents were probably busy, but I just have to wonder. He seems to me to be the embodiment of entitled male privilege, someone who pitches a fit when things don't quite go his way. I wonder if what set him off was someone being stronger in the Force than he was.

orangerful April 16 2016, 20:07:33 UTC

OH MY GOD WHY WOULD YOU SHOW ME THAT!!!!!!!! **DIES**

Speaking of, this makes me cry/laugh at the same time.

And I totally agree, I think the writers were definitely going for that angle of the entitled male of privilege with Ren. I think that is part of the reason he only refers to Rey as "girl" and "scavenger" for the movie. It will be so satisfying when he has to refer to her as JEDI.

kseenaa April 18 2016, 12:18:07 UTC

My gawd, people! You're killing me with them comics! o.O

angelamermaid April 17 2016, 20:26:55 UTC

I was going to link to that comic! Heartbreaking.

ragnarok_08 April 16 2016, 19:17:52 UTC

Those interpretations sound pretty plausible to me, and I can definitely see booth of those, looking back on that scene.

doomcookie99 April 16 2016, 23:24:31 UTC

Yay for Star Wars! I slept through the Empire Strikes Back bc I was just 6 years old. lol

awakenyourfaith April 16 2016, 23:48:00 UTC

Oh man, I can totally see that! Too cool.

rhoda_rants April 17 2016, 00:55:57 UTC

I am appreciating Adam Driver more and more. It didn't even occur to me that he knows Chewie, but OF COURSE he knows Chewie. He probably babysat for them a few times ( ... )

orangerful April 17 2016, 03:41:34 UTC

I think he wants to turn her too, because he isn't truly dark side, just like Anakin/Vader with Luke. He may tell himself he wants an apprentice but really he just can't bring himself to kill her, she really is still innocent at that point. He killed Han as part of his "training" and he wants to kill Finn because he is a "traitor" but he really has no reason to kill Rey, and that bit of light in him won't let him.

Or, like all true Sith, his only thoughts are of being the NUMBER ONE SITH and he wants an apprentice to overthrow Snoke.

(ugh, still hate that name...Snoke...)

**waits for 2**

rhoda_rants April 18 2016, 01:49:50 UTC

I feel like "Snoke" might be an acronym or something--no way that's his proper name. I wanna say it's Darth Plagueis, but that's almost too easy.

Oh, and I remember now!! The other weird thing about Kylo Ren is that no one, even in the First Order, seems to respect him. At all. Domnhall Gleeson is just shy of rolling his eyes every time they're in the room together, and when those two Stormtroopers roll up while he's throwing a fit, they just walk away. I guess he inspires fear on some level, because he's powerful, and can hurt people, but no one on that side wants to be Kylo Ren. Contrast to Darth Vader in the original trilogy, where everyone was terrified of him but was very careful and very respectful and obedient at all times. (With the possible exception of Tarkin, who is his own brand of Lawful Evil.)

Not sure where I'm going with that thought, but I do wonder what's in store for the First Order next, given that very obvious command chain rift.

orangerful April 18 2016, 02:46:27 UTC

There was a great article I read back when TFA first came out, and the guy pointed out that Kylo Ren wants to be Darth Vader so bad, and he tries so hard, but really, he's just Anakin Skywalker. He's petulant and whiny and no one really respects him because they know he has these anger issues. And this actually connects back to my thoughts about REAL pain and suffering because Anakin doesn't become Darth Vader until he feels the pain of losing his mother, then the "betrayal" of the Jedi, and finally the death of Padme transforms him into a soulless and evil man/machine.

Kylo Ren has never had a loss this great. Killing his father is the closest thing, the final step (he thinks) to becoming Vader but I think he is still trapped as Anakin's grandson. His fight with Rey was like the fight with Obi-Wan, a hissy fit, thinking he is the best, only to be bested, and then breaking down completely.

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