Johnny mention on last night's Chelsea Lately!

[abelfan]

So this morning I decided to watch last night's episode of Chelsea Lately when I saw that one of their roundtable discussions was going to be Johnny versus Stars on Ice. I decided to transcribe this for the comm.

Comments

[phoenixwish]

Wtf is that guy on about, Johnny IS a professional athlete. And it's his own decision whether to be out or not.

[abelfan]

Technically-speaking, Johnny has yet to turn pro which I had to remind myself when I went "wut?"

IA about it being Johnny's decision. I think Guy likes Johnny, IDK. Generally I am amused by Guy.

[hobnobofjoy]

I was about to comment about that, but I guess you're right.

Still, it does annoy me when people ignore the fact that he's a hugely talented and hardworking Olympic athlete.

[abelfan]

I hear you! Especially because a lot of people don't differentiate because figure skating is one of the only sports where you don't compete when you're a professional.

And yeah, no matter what, he's a 2-time Olympian, that in itself is quite a feat.

[mcrcookie]

I love Chelsea. So much.

[mcrcookie]

AND BOBBY! I miss MADTV.

[pourtant]

EVAN LYSACEK LOVES THE LADIIIIIIES

LOL DYING

[abelfan]

That part was so awesome, especially with the finger points.

[russell_crowe]

Ia, and I'm getting really sick of all the attention to the issue. The point is that it doesn't matter and that someone's sexuality doesn't define who they are--so why does it seem like orientation is all anyone cares about? Idk, it's like the Quinto thing all over again, but worse. Nobody has any obligation to come out to anyone. Period. Fuck that noise.

[utterfrivolity]

I think this attitude is something of a holdover from a previous generation and a reaction to what happened in the past. I used to be incredibly frustrated with people in positions of power who chose not to come out because I thought that while it was a personal choice, they should want to use their position of power to change public perception and make it easier for others to be out both in their field and in everyday life. And if you look back even a decade or so ago, I think there was a much clearer in/out dichotomy; people in positions of power who didn't "come out" were usually hiding their sexuality for their personal advantage, and honestly, I am still frustrated by people who do this (see, e.g., Evan Lysacek). It's their choice, but that doesn't mean I'm going to respect them for it

[violett_crumble]

Well put. I was just about to write the same thing. There is the idea, amongst some in the gay community, and I'm usually among them more often than not, that being gay will remain a stigma as long as gay people feel they can't be open about it. (Why else, they say, would you not simply answer "Yes" to The Question if it wasn't something you felt ashamed of. Straight people never hem and haw over how to answer it.)

I always have assumed that athletes in competition have stayed closeted because they either know or fear that it will be used (unfairly) against them by their fellow athletes or by the sports establishment. And frankly, if that's the case, it's not really my place to force them to decide to risk their careers by coming out. I do cheer the ones who do, though. They are brave, and they are badly needed.

[cynicalshadows]

Evan Lysacek loves the ladies.

Riiiiiiiight!