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romp January 11 2012, 08:51:22 UTC
Isn't this a given? I mean, that all sorts of viruses and diseases will develop that we can't treat due to resistance and/or people being overexposed to antibiotics? Maybe the TB vaccine will come through.

Someone in my family has pretty much burned through all the antibiotics so infections are very difficult to treat in him. Meanwhile, none of the family can hear me tell them about the amount of antibiotics they're all getting via beef and milk...

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koken23 January 11 2012, 09:13:30 UTC
TB is scary shit though. There is a vaccine, fortunately, but in developing countries or populations with low vaxx rates for other reasons...let me put it this way. The vaccine currently in use (the only one we have) dates from 1921. As late as 1918, nearly twenty percent of all the deaths in France were from TB or TB-related complications. Pre-war figures were the same, so we probably shouldn't blame that on war-stress compromising the immune system.

Imagine a cough that gets into your lungs and tears them apart.

...How many cases of 'consumption' and so on do you remember from books and films and TV shows set in the past?

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mswyrr January 11 2012, 11:03:58 UTC
...How many cases of 'consumption' and so on do you remember from books and films and TV shows set in the past?

I was just thinking of this, how horrible a thing it is when it's widespread and untreatable.

See: the many losses to TB in the Keats family, and finally poor John dying at 26.

Jesus.

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lafinjack January 11 2012, 14:04:47 UTC
You seem pretty on the history of TB, so please bear with me a sec. For some reason I picked up this idea in high school English class that a famous author or poet, in the vein of Poe and around his timeframe, had something like TB and was treated with hot irons that they shoved down his esophagus to cauterize the lesions, and that he was undergoing these treatments even as he was dying and trying to finish his last work. I tried to google for whoever this was before I posted the story, and came up blank. Does this ring any bells to you?

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the_gabih January 11 2012, 09:42:44 UTC
...well, shit.

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clevermanka January 11 2012, 15:19:44 UTC
Yep.

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fishphile January 11 2012, 20:30:10 UTC
Double yep.

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atomic_joe2 January 11 2012, 09:43:03 UTC
It's evolution, baby. I remember seeing a Richard Dawkins programme about two prostitutes in Kenya who had developed an immunity to HIV. Its what happens.

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pluckygirl January 11 2012, 11:26:51 UTC
How did that happen?

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dncingmalkavian January 11 2012, 15:25:09 UTC
Nature does that sometimes.

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entropius January 11 2012, 18:12:04 UTC
Some people are just naturally resistant to HIV; there's a mutation that makes the virus have extreme difficulty invading their cells. There's actually a case of an accidental AIDS "cure" -- somebody got a bone marrow transplant from a donor who was resistant, and the transplanted immune system was resistant to HIV.

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lastrega January 11 2012, 10:16:28 UTC
This is, to put it mildly, exceptionally bad.

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mswyrr January 11 2012, 11:28:47 UTC
OT - your icon is a thing of beauty.

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mephisto5 January 11 2012, 10:16:50 UTC
0_0

Fighting a very strong urge to run around screaming "Close all the borders! Quarantine all the goods!"

Also, an unregulated private healthcare sector sounds utterly terrifying.

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rylee900 January 11 2012, 10:36:19 UTC

This is my gut reaction too lol. D:

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romp January 11 2012, 20:26:08 UTC
As I posted above, I recall an article about health care in India which said many people go to the local "doctor" (they have shopfronts) and buy however much medication they can afford. With antibiotics, that's often not enough to kill the virus/infection but enough to strengthen the bug. So, yeah, my mind went to this being ANOTHER reason for universal health care.

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