Comments | ontd_political: War in Libya is Unconstitutional, Just Sayin'

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War in Libya is Unconstitutional, Just Sayin'

Mar 21, 2011 13:30

"President Obama moved forward without Congress approving. He didn't have Congressional authorization, he has gone against the Constitution, and that's got to be said," Dem. Rep. Kucinich told Raw Story on Monday. "It's not even disputable, this isn't even a close question. Such an action -- that involves putting America's service men ( Read more... )

ron paul, war, dennis kucinich, ralph nader, impeachment, barack obama, libya

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Congress getting skipped over again faster than the Terms of Agreement text... chaya March 21 2011, 19:30:17 UTC

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Re: Congress getting skipped over again faster than the Terms of Agreement text... lickety_split March 21 2011, 19:43:04 UTC

MLP!!!

Re: Congress getting skipped over again faster than the Terms of Agreement text... chaya March 21 2011, 19:45:57 UTC

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Re: Congress getting skipped over again faster than the Terms of Agreement text... lickety_split March 21 2011, 19:47:48 UTC

LOL Pinkie Pie is too ridiculous.

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mycroftholmes March 21 2011, 19:51:59 UTC

Obama should have called for an emergency session to get Congressional approval. Nearly everything that our presidents have done militarially from Johnson's Tonkin Gulf Resolution onward has been unconstitutional, and at least half of them have, arguably, been without ethical justification.

On the other hand, responding to a direct request for this very action from the people of Libya and acting in accord with the UN is one hell of a lot better than how Afghanistan and Iraq were handled under Bush.

entropius March 21 2011, 21:36:31 UTC

+1

Sort of sad that conservatives are saying "See? Obama is the same as Bush, and Libya is the same as Iraq!"

... not quite.

libre_m March 22 2011, 00:22:10 UTC

I agree with everything you just said, plus bonus points for your username!

akashasheiress March 21 2011, 20:17:39 UTC

I really don't see how Libyan civilians getting killed by foreign forces is any better than getting killed by their own. The ''liberal interventionists'' can rot in hell.

akuma_river March 21 2011, 20:36:41 UTC

Five thousand were killed in one week by Qaddafi forces.

So far maybe a few hundred have died by the no-fly zone strikes. But this is being reported by Libyan TV and there is still fighting between the rebels and Qaddafi forces so it is unknown what the count is.

What is known is that the US said that a no-fly zone would first be implemented by air strikes. The rebels still begged for it because they were facing absolute slaughter.

If not the no-fly zone...then what should the world governments have done considering tens of thousands were facing death by Qaddafi forces if they did nothing?

akashasheiress March 21 2011, 21:21:38 UTC

You really think they did this out of concern for the civilians? I still don't think it's okay.

chaya March 21 2011, 21:35:18 UTC

I'm interested to hear what would have been most prudent.

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mijopo March 21 2011, 20:18:39 UTC

This blog is worth a read, arguing that the "United Nations Participation Act" makes this action legal:

http://jenkinsear.com/2011/03/19/a-legal-war-the-united-nations-participation-act-and-libya/

keeni84 March 21 2011, 20:39:13 UTC

Meh IDK I guess it depends on what he means by "unilateral", and how much of a role the UN is playing in this (which is huge, we know).